Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.017 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.97; '*S*': 0.00; 'python.': 0.02; 'model,': 0.05; 'dev': 0.07; 'yeah,': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'python': 0.11; 'posted': 0.15; '(it': 0.16; 'btw': 0.16; 'experience;': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'bit': 0.19; 'trying': 0.19; 'seems': 0.21; 'aug': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'mon,': 0.24; 'question': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'task': 0.26; 'gets': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'quickly': 0.29; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'asked': 0.31; 'probability': 0.31; 'lists': 0.32; 'open': 0.33; 'core': 0.34; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'c++': 0.36; 'done': 0.36; 'process,': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'rather': 0.38; 'mailing': 0.39; 'called': 0.40; 'read': 0.60; 'complete': 0.62; 'high': 0.63; 'soon': 0.63; 'group,': 0.63; 'become': 0.64; 'hours': 0.66; 'answer.': 0.68; 'safe': 0.72; '"smart': 0.84; 'everything.': 0.84; 'people"': 0.84; 'to:none': 0.92 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=Gw7MOq8CS+7AzveWSk3LWunfUctlw3mC714d5UGregU=; b=Mn4geMFqQ4EkpQujgGEEi3jjyqNk3l/vSISW0BC0dsGZbSsHvfOpMbRyIQ2Y05sDS5 wS/jN1F2uM0L3ho3wPLu+rUNAQPWZUp4Ej6AKLJVC9z0sOhIIlrE4OtemNcTYUfl/XMs fUudtIqiwrJWTt5yp3O4pMgMJErEqyLcj7nMZTWMXU4gNKthfF1M3xpwn9oxatxP9M8N vDBnObsQWphfvG0IadoLRNV64AVuI6BOT0mEi1CAKLiMtZXntewUl7BWvik/aLOietC3 Uj9v4kthfewuSxLWkCoz4UMxtM+J/3Ff08+8CCfOdbkvVWyB3wOUVfuJwSMYOpvgCfuk syxw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.176.202 with SMTP id ck10mr32573160igc.2.1407121555450; Sun, 03 Aug 2014 20:05:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5gstt9lf3ui5r6novjof9k0mnim3rqqlhl@4ax.com> References: <53dee1e2$0$9505$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <5gstt9lf3ui5r6novjof9k0mnim3rqqlhl@4ax.com> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 13:05:55 +1000 Subject: Re: CodeSkulptor From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 27 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1407121558 news.xs4all.nl 2830 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:42092 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:75655 On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Seymore4Head wrote: > BTW Just read the instructions seems like a daunting task at the > moment. You knew what instructions you were looking for. I am > clueless. Yeah, that's called experience :) Part of that experience is the rather painful one of spending a good few dev hours trying to sandbox Python inside a C++ process, only to find that the sandbox got busted wide open pretty quickly as soon as I asked people to try to. (It was in a safe environment, firewalled off from everything. It was deliberately done as a security test... and the system failed so spectacularly that we had to make a complete change to the core model, among other things not using Python. Which made me sad. We had to go with ECMAScript and its flaws.) But that means that I know straight away what to look for. This is why we have these kinds of mailing lists / newsgroups. Every one of us has some experience; when you put a question out to the collective, there's a high probability that someone will know the answer. It's not that there are "smart people" and "dumb people", and that dumb people ask questions that smart people answer; it's that the whole group is smarter than any one of us. And then the answer gets posted to the whole group, and we all become that bit smarter for it :) ChrisA