Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Chris Angelico Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Stop writing Python 4 incompatible code Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 12:29:09 +1100 Lines: 19 Message-ID: References: <5695fd0e$0$11119$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> <0529e7d6-0de1-4e38-9a19-2b5ed1ecc39f@googlegroups.com> <5696e77e$0$1597$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <5d7a5bb1-f229-4755-a0bf-dd3ad9d99fba@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de LPVR6XGDpd3skhJezc8PmwA1RAHcWFlVy4GBRXsdA7ZA== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.031 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.94; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'python3': 0.05; 'subject:code': 0.07; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.09; 'jan': 0.11; 'thu,': 0.15; '*only*': 0.16; '2016': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'mainstream': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'subject:writing': 0.16; 'written.': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'community,': 0.18; 'cc:2**0': 0.20; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.20; "python's": 0.23; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'software.': 0.25; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; '14,': 0.27; 'base,': 0.29; 'culture,': 0.29; 'hacker': 0.29; 'there.': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; 'code': 0.30; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'next': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'received:209.85': 0.36; 'pm,': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'johnson': 0.37; 'leader': 0.37; 'received:209.85.213': 0.37; 'wanted': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.38; 'google': 0.39; 'some': 0.40; 'software': 0.40; 'him': 0.60; 'success': 0.62; 'watch': 0.62; 'success,': 0.63; 'boss': 0.66; 'hired': 0.66; 'fact,': 0.67; 'steady': 0.72; 'chrisa': 0.84; 'conclude': 0.84; "software's": 0.84; 'subject:Stop': 0.84; 'to:none': 0.91; 'fired': 0.91; 'rick': 0.93 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=+bpPdM0aodUmwfGPVStpbZW6almcl2D4U5QzadPe//Y=; b=QOV5XNxSj9K8UFSiKIHgl2nF4xlM7UmW3wXmZ/zEx1lfb63n8kM33ebTYfp2qkOL5Y A/ABpTBs9pKteX2aaQsh87Aqrl7sF2cNX4M/LuZ03Qfyoh2gEBi9ptLKnsgi7PTlJLtR DoZxIRYfOMDJdCKK/1far3oXw1Jh4Y9XJNSvy1XIz9fmdtYTIb8n9+3kQ4ZRwXfVkpId jwHuFDKzlNEl4qekNxSGOrp6fwy1KNze/wkn3xts0yCRbzo87MtWVyDmMQTYmPeCET6f 2/y/HZQ2rLqYEvoh1waTpHwWd87f+k5mfwoeifv6KVnUYKJwYVAXXTFlmf7Yx4xaxPvq xCVA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:cc:content-type; bh=+bpPdM0aodUmwfGPVStpbZW6almcl2D4U5QzadPe//Y=; b=JvEwiLSLD9GZt2RUynDr99yAU+v4jwDRH49RvyfLPwvEL08e4HrphcO3svgPczcPbe TbM2IyuWoKEkTjcIHacwRcL8DrM/5IKmlUQtoNPpUn0VfrULk+FdRRHRbArie5M7SSZc Gu+z8eduZ2ZDSUniJpAT3OCkDbs0iskyCdIPgaB0jTZEgOqzFMpqM0DWDk1qxkSkhKc4 WU5SW1NQuAdGFW1lY2LympWEBdSSvfyn7ZptdZnwUpNKJHc3DvbOMdOSd+pO+A2DdnSM sgc1oNiRWQCDNuuM0KaLfV4vFIG4aSm63xx55QT6n/6L74shPK1d6wh/AOCZRCh9kQy2 QWHA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmQOEGX1L/qiAdlCBwkEE8mGbE8/AU+cjZeujQ1ZI00IBt3E8EJZz6TfxS9akge0kK+byV6DUWHpUbUQi4a7vPXKLnf6w== X-Received: by 10.50.66.179 with SMTP id g19mr2258682igt.94.1452734949787; Wed, 13 Jan 2016 17:29:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <5d7a5bb1-f229-4755-a0bf-dd3ad9d99fba@googlegroups.com> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:101657 On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 12:02 PM, Rick Johnson wrote: > In fact, in the years before Python3 arrived, it had enjoyed > a steady ascension from obscurity into mainstream hacker > culture, but now, all that remains is a fractured community, > a fractured code base, and a leader who lost his cushy job > at Google -- of which i think Python3 is directly > responsible. Think about it: if they hired him *BECAUSE* of > Python's success then we can *ONLY* conclude they fired him > for mismanaging it. > I got hired by my last boss because he wanted some software written. I'm no longer employed there. Think about it: if he hired me *BECAUSE* of software's success, we can ONLY conclude that I mismanaged the very concept of software. Watch out, folks; software is about to become the next dead thing! ChrisA