Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.albasani.net!newsfeed.freenet.ag!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.011 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'mrab': 0.05; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'friday,': 0.09; 'portions': 0.09; 'replied': 0.09; 'rewrite': 0.09; 'run,': 0.09; 'yeah,': 0.09; 'runs': 0.10; 'extension,': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'gonna': 0.16; 'itself,': 0.16; 'limiting': 0.16; 'numpy': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'examples': 0.20; 'fairly': 0.24; "i've": 0.25; 'possibly': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply- To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; '(like': 0.30; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'fixing': 0.31; 'high.': 0.31; 'lot.': 0.31; 'subject:what': 0.31; 'fri,': 0.33; 'subject:the': 0.34; 'problem': 0.35; 'received:209.85': 0.35; 'received:209.85.220': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'received:209': 0.37; 'minimum': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'itself': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'days': 0.60; 'easy': 0.60; 'most': 0.60; 'john': 0.61; 'making': 0.63; 'became': 0.64; 'within': 0.65; 'improvements': 0.68; 'simulations': 0.84; 'subject:latest': 0.84; 'week!': 0.93; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ax+tUwWRwNS1GvXSSXx6kwD37YhcjbS17KrFnz327+Q=; b=EHBnLc0Pa0BU0wsHDl1QudG4imkrVGI5L/0dF0PAqjRfGPSwu4WqQGSLFV1G9Jgyk4 GEaHDk/Z+JpqzgrxY2siRRn7n4+zu433sP86L4ooCyT3kMnOdl8tguLyVaas59D+EyaJ ArwRtt6qGp4mMpVUMZdywRV8xgzqPnQU+CrTQDI8dChAdjF2IkayArqcBM3//14Bt09p qsYOm9yTTrDJWalnxWnahUHlHuBoLSC71WFeK4lhpDk4OkJq8CPu9lXzigyvVphTS6jq 7SD0NLcg5lm70VdTwmDaz+eFKMqU2X8yVwwH8Is8JX0cDqlU1Verrjt9bQSMWPWsPds9 Kv0A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.58.15.193 with SMTP id z1mr7452799vec.40.1365151752100; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 01:49:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <590d71e1-5f78-475e-a5bc-8210694a7616@googlegroups.com> References: <6ac24546-6cc6-4a01-9fa6-3b52d64484e3@googlegroups.com> <590d71e1-5f78-475e-a5bc-8210694a7616@googlegroups.com> Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 19:49:12 +1100 Subject: Re: JIT compilers for Python, what is the latest news? From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 26 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1365151754 news.xs4all.nl 6918 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:51178 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:42797 On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 7:39 PM, John Ladasky w= rote: > On Friday, April 5, 2013 1:27:40 AM UTC-7, Chris Angelico wrote: >> 1) Can you optimize your algorithms? Three days of processing is... a LO= T. > > Neural network training. Yes, it takes a long time. Still, it's not the= most tedious code I run. I also do molecular-dynamics simulations with GR= OMACS, those runs can take over a week! > >> 2) Rewrite some key portions in C, possibly using Cython (as MRAB sugges= ted). > > And as I replied to MRAB, my limiting code is within Numpy. I've taken c= are to look for ways that I might have been using Numpy itself inefficientl= y (and I did find a problem once: fixing it tripled my execution speed). B= ut I would like to think that Numpy itself, since it is already a C extensi= on, should be optimal. Ahh, yeah, that's gonna take a while. Your minimum processing time is likely to remain fairly high. There won't be any stupidly easy improvements to make (like one of my favorite examples from databasing: an overnight job became a three-second run, just by making proper use of a Btrieve file's index). ChrisA