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charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: Albert-Jan Roskam List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 27 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1407063340 news.xs4all.nl 2918 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:57320 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:75587 =0A=0A----- Original Message -----=0A=0A> From: Peter Otten <__peter__@web.= de>=0A> To: python-list@python.org=0A> Cc: =0A> Sent: Sunday, August 3, 201= 4 11:37 AM=0A> Subject: Re: Correct type for a simple "bag of attributes" n= amespace object=0A> =0A> Albert-Jan Roskam wrote:=0A> =0A>> I find the fol= lowing obscure (to me at least) use of type() useful exactly=0A>> for this= "bag of attributes" use case:=0A>>>>> employee =3D type("Employee", (obje= ct,), {})=0A>>>>> employee.name =3D "John Doe"=0A>>>>> employee.position = =3D "Python programmer"=0A>>>>> employee.name, employee.position, employee= =0A>> ('John Doe', 'Python programmer', '__main__.Employee'>)= =0A> =0A> Are you sure you know what you are doing? The above is equivalent= to=0A> =0A>>>> class employee:=0A> ...=A0 =A0 name =3D "John Doe"=0A> ..= .=A0 =A0 position =3D "Python programmer"=0A> ... =0A>>>> employee.name, = employee.position, employee=0A> ('John Doe', 'Python programmer', '__main__.employee'>)=0A>>>> type(employee)=0A> =0A> = =0A> Basically you are using classes as instances. While there is no fundam= ental =0A> difference between classes and instances in Python you'll surpri= se readers =0A> of your code and waste some space:=0A=0AYes, I know that it= is equivalent, but I have always found it kind of ugly to use class() just= to bundle a number of items. Like you are 'announcing OOP' (not sure how t= o put this into words), and then it's merely a simple bundle. Or maybe it's= just me being silly, because it's even in the Python tutorial: https://doc= s.python.org/2/tutorial/classes.html#odds-and-ends=0A=A0=0A>>>> import sys= =0A>>>> sys.getsizeof(employee)=0A> 976=0A>>>> class Employee: pass=0A> .= .. =0A>>>> employee =3D Employee()=0A>>>> employee.name =3D "John Doe"=0A= >>>> employee.position =3D "Python programmer"=0A>>>> sys.getsizeof(emplo= yee)=0A> 64=0AWow, I was not aware of that at all. So they are not equivale= nt after all.