Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!xlned.com!feeder5.xlned.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.030 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.94; '*S*': 0.00; 'python,': 0.02; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'plenty': 0.07; 'steve': 0.09; 'cc:addr :python-list': 0.11; 'python': 0.11; 'books': 0.15; '>>on': 0.16; 'both,': 0.16; 'did,': 0.16; 'does,': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'hayes': 0.16; 'all.': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; '>>>': 0.22; 'aug': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'install': 0.23; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; "i've": 0.25; 'possibly': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'getting': 0.31; 'author,': 0.31; 'stuff': 0.32; 'running': 0.33; 'subject:the': 0.34; "can't": 0.35; 'something': 0.35; "who's": 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'idle': 0.36; 'too': 0.37; 'starting': 0.37; 'branch': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'even': 0.60; 'read': 0.60; 'new': 0.61; "you're": 0.61; "you'll": 0.62; 'information': 0.63; 'investment': 0.66; 'book,': 0.68; 'bothered': 0.68; 'online': 0.71; 'paper': 0.75; 'yourself': 0.78; 'can...': 0.84; 'downloadable': 0.84; 'pdfs': 0.84; 'tie': 0.84; 'to:none': 0.92 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=xLJA80hJb9DzJMCP55fW/WVrg2cLe26w93RKWN/XuMQ=; b=t8kps56RkvbAXYgbqP1GhPupSmIU2Dqau+ffQIvE38bhl60UIsG2elD2/bbC2BwxlV +YX/aG1v4AByQSt8v7us70STOh36Rh6yMswocvy+JoMmwKP/ncJnb4L05wtxG15LTBTy 9DQ7s855eIN1PV1lltHyzjy+bMf2WTkBWay508a1MccqkrwJGZ9Rh7zgHKU7cq07iS8V ajf06kJo5DfdNb0tUxOa6yvoHAKKYWjv9oErfnRPf/HXJ9FPJ6qKy3D1DENyHAX45I3J 5R6ytPFItW5PpHr7tfw6HJhE6kTZfXPq/pZKxLjGRteNf/U5TnKknJkB1xf/cXQcDZFn j5Tg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.176.202 with SMTP id ck10mr24205891igc.2.1407044628130; Sat, 02 Aug 2014 22:43:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <0hhrt99lb6hhfh9q7mhra55d8base6eumg@4ax.com> References: <0hhrt99lb6hhfh9q7mhra55d8base6eumg@4ax.com> Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2014 15:43:48 +1000 Subject: Re: Python Programing for the Absoulte Beginner From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 30 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1407044637 news.xs4all.nl 2922 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:54276 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:75581 On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 3:20 PM, Steve Hayes wrote: > On Sun, 3 Aug 2014 15:12:02 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote: > >>On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Steve Hayes wrote: >>>>You're looking at a Python 2 book, and you're running Python 3. I >>>>would recommend instead getting a Python 3 tutorial: >>> >>> Or do as I did, and install Python 2. >> >>Better to install and learn Python 3. Much better. > > I've got too big an investment in books on Python 2, and there are no books > available on Python 3 (I don't regard downloadable PDFs or other onlines stuff > as "books"). But there are plenty of courses for Python 3, and lots of people are happy to take online information when learning coding. (Personally, I can't be bothered with paper books at all. I get all my books online if I possibly can... or even get both, pay for the paper one to support the author, and then download it so I have something I can actually read and search.) Don't tie yourself to the Python branch that's not getting development (bugfixes, some IDLE enhancements, but no new features) unless you have a good reason to. For someone who's just starting out with Python, learn Python 3. Don't bother going into all the debates; if you have need of Python 2, you'll find out when the time comes; and when it does, you'll be better placed for having learned Python 3. ChrisA