Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!news.mixmin.net!rt.uk.eu.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.002 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'python,': 0.02; 'say,': 0.05; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'namespace': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'jan': 0.12; 'changes': 0.15; 'b=2)': 0.16; 'builtins': 0.16; 'does,': 0.16; 'imports': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'subject:object': 0.16; 'subject:simple': 0.16; 'subject:type': 0.16; 'write,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; '>>>': 0.22; 'import': 0.22; 'aug': 0.22; 'putting': 0.22; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.23; 'asking': 0.27; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; '(which': 0.31; 'went': 0.31; 'away.': 0.31; 'probably': 0.32; 'core': 0.34; "i'd": 0.34; 'requirement': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'version': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'too': 0.37; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'does': 0.39; 'received:71': 0.39; 'subject:" ': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'customized': 0.61; 'new': 0.61; 'name': 0.63; 'high': 0.63; 'skip:n 10': 0.64; 'approved': 0.65; 'skip:\xe2 10': 0.65; 'believe': 0.68; 'behavior': 0.77; 'hood': 0.84; 'received:fios.verizon.net': 0.84; 'forgotten': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Terry Reedy Subject: Re: Correct type for a simple "bag of attributes" namespace object Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2014 22:40:43 -0400 References: <7ef67ccc-3fc3-47dd-b858-09ef3b57a497@googlegroups.com> <87r40zmkhr.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <53dd0717$0$29973$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <70e5f2f1-661f-40f2-bb7a-76e569c4d092@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-71-175-90-87.phlapa.fios.verizon.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 43 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1407033664 news.xs4all.nl 2954 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:51849 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:75574 On 8/2/2014 5:16 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 02/08/2014 22:05, Chris Angelico wrote: >> On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 6:46 AM, Mark Summerfield = >> wrote: >>> But perhaps what I should be asking for is for a new built-in that >>> does what types.SimpleNamespace() does, so that without any import >>> you can write, say, >>> >>> foo =3D namespace(a=3D1, b=3D2) >>> # or >>> bar =3D namespace() >>> bar.a =3D 1 >>> >>> where under the hood namespace has the same behavior as >>> types.SimpleNamespace(). >>> >>> Naturally, I understand that adding a new name is a big deal and may >>> be too much to ask for beginners. >> >> This is where you might want to consider putting some imports into >> site.py. That way, you can set up your own customized Python, without >> waiting for changes to be approved for core (which they probably won't= >> - new builtins have a high requirement for necessity, not just "I >> don't want to have to type import"). >> >> ChrisA >> > > I'd forgotten all about site.py so went to the 3.4.1 docs and found > "Deprecated since version 3.4: Support for the =E2=80=9Csite-python=E2=80= =9D directory > will be removed in 3.5.". site-python is *nix only and differetn from site.py, which will not go=20 away. I believe PYTHONSTARTUP is also cross platform. --=20 Terry Jan Reedy