Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!news.mixmin.net!rt.uk.eu.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.003 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'python,': 0.02; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.04; 'say,': 0.05; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'namespace': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'language.': 0.14; 'changes': 0.15; 'b=2)': 0.16; 'builtins': 0.16; 'does,': 0.16; 'imports': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'subject:object': 0.16; 'subject:simple': 0.16; 'subject:type': 0.16; 'write,': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; '>>>': 0.22; 'import': 0.22; 'aug': 0.22; 'putting': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'asking': 0.27; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; '(which': 0.31; 'went': 0.31; 'probably': 0.32; 'core': 0.34; "i'd": 0.34; 'requirement': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'version': 0.36; 'revert': 0.36; "didn't": 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'too': 0.37; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.38; 'anything': 0.39; 'does': 0.39; 'subject:" ': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'read': 0.60; 'customized': 0.61; 'new': 0.61; 'name': 0.63; 'high': 0.63; 'skip:n 10': 0.64; 'our': 0.64; 'approved': 0.65; 'charset:windows-1252': 0.65; 'behavior': 0.77; 'hood': 0.84; 'noise': 0.84; 'received:2': 0.84; 'forgotten': 0.91; 'thoroughly': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: Correct type for a simple "bag of attributes" namespace object Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2014 22:23:12 +0100 References: <7ef67ccc-3fc3-47dd-b858-09ef3b57a497@googlegroups.com> <87r40zmkhr.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <53dd0717$0$29973$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <70e5f2f1-661f-40f2-bb7a-76e569c4d092@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-2-98-197-203.as13285.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 44 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1407014706 news.xs4all.nl 2904 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:35967 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:75552 On 02/08/2014 22:16, Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 02/08/2014 22:05, Chris Angelico wrote: >> On Sun, Aug 3, 2014 at 6:46 AM, Mark Summerfield >> wrote: >>> But perhaps what I should be asking for is for a new built-in that >>> does what types.SimpleNamespace() does, so that without any import >>> you can write, say, >>> >>> foo = namespace(a=1, b=2) >>> # or >>> bar = namespace() >>> bar.a = 1 >>> >>> where under the hood namespace has the same behavior as >>> types.SimpleNamespace(). >>> >>> Naturally, I understand that adding a new name is a big deal and may >>> be too much to ask for beginners. >> >> This is where you might want to consider putting some imports into >> site.py. That way, you can set up your own customized Python, without >> waiting for changes to be approved for core (which they probably won't >> - new builtins have a high requirement for necessity, not just "I >> don't want to have to type import"). >> >> ChrisA >> > > I'd forgotten all about site.py so went to the 3.4.1 docs and found > "Deprecated since version 3.4: Support for the “site-python” directory > will be removed in 3.5.". > > Plan B? :) > Plan B is revert to plan A, I didn't read things anything like thoroughly enough, sorry about the noise :( -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence