Path: csiph.com!news.swapon.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Random832 Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Moderation and slight change of (de facto) policy Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2016 20:27:40 -0400 Lines: 25 Message-ID: References: <5713C08F.3010207@timgolden.me.uk> <57140947.3050902@gmail.com> <1460939260.3483225.581520729.146827C9@webmail.messagingengine.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de NiZEJBPLMUIdPNW2zIqdYwwycU0jAmHLSvCfby++EAxw== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.003 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'modify': 0.04; 'remind': 0.05; '(especially': 0.07; 'moderation': 0.07; 'received:internal': 0.09; 'message- id:@webmail.messagingengine.com': 0.16; 'moderation,': 0.16; 'objections': 0.16; 'received:10.202': 0.16; 'received:10.202.2': 0.16; 'received:10.202.2.212': 0.16; 'received:66.111': 0.16; 'received:66.111.4': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:messagingengine.com': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'settings': 0.20; 'first,': 0.20; 'purposes': 0.20; 'saying': 0.22; "aren't": 0.22; 'seems': 0.23; 'tim': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'dll': 0.27; 'subscriber': 0.27; 'repair': 0.29; 'summary': 0.29; "i'm": 0.30; 'option': 0.31; 'post': 0.31; 'subject:) ': 0.32; "who's": 0.32; 'subject:change': 0.33; 'lists': 0.34; 'list': 0.34; 'list:': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'there': 0.36; 'lines': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'received:10': 0.37; 'doing': 0.38; 'received:66': 0.38; 'several': 0.38; 'someone': 0.38; 'mailing': 0.38; 'why': 0.39; 'along': 0.39; 'rather': 0.39; 'well.': 0.40; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'still': 0.40; 'questions': 0.40; 'header:Message-Id:1': 0.61; 'is.': 0.63; "they're": 0.66; 'reply': 0.68; '*really*': 0.84; 'thing).': 0.84 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fastmail.com; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-sasl-enc :x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=iwM/q3VZ/AAXi8c60e/3bCCPuIw=; b=EM41qQ Hleg92qtLbEidvBHgrKfgeFpmkoXZ7bHv5hFIgSoUQquz0EOdVy8oYvAWzhtcdut IduHW4um+nJUuZ9IW4rT+bIoJbS6rhfv3BGOp6+QD/kVuB2yUfd8re8nyURDIafi LgSuaZJ6i8+Y9NqjUSBkorO6BCIyz05FZ88+I= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=iwM/q3VZ/AAXi8c 60e/3bCCPuIw=; b=JW3TttFKQdORaH2aYMwxDPHR0omQSL59shZb2PCfNziqfgR VU9MV5GiE5gvPCn5knFVq3tP0+/vlvKIRDZ3Bn+Zk0No5Mjn2q1NMPnJDm7MMc1x h9jcAtcIM0n5QN38+fi+18ihxXRIC3O/T4GRaiBa0Z4UpYle/QjUVDBVWkEM= X-Sasl-Enc: 9kLYG/laCnqg3wdSvIZXpWaHy7ORcaMmmxe5RLmna+Dv 1460939260 X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-1032a755 In-Reply-To: <57140947.3050902@gmail.com> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: <1460939260.3483225.581520729.146827C9@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Mailman-Original-References: <5713C08F.3010207@timgolden.me.uk> <57140947.3050902@gmail.com> Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:107208 On Sun, Apr 17, 2016, at 18:08, Matt Ruffalo wrote: > Hi- > > That seems like a reasonable approach, though I think there *really* > needs to be an option along the lines of "subscribed to the list for the > purposes of moderation, but not receiving list messages via email". There is. I'm on several other (non-python, but still using mailman) mailing lists like that because they require you to be a subscriber to post via gmane. > On 2016-04-17 12:57, Tim Golden wrote: > > First, a quick summary of the current settings of the list: > > > > * Any post from someone who's not subscribed to the list is held for > > moderation As an alternative, when you send them through can you put a note on the bottom saying they're not subscribed, to remind people to CC them in responses? I think that's why we never get any followup on "newbie problem" questions (especially the crt dll thing and the modify remove repair thing). A couple other lists I'm on do this and it works well. I think most of the people who have objections to CC-ing are annoyed when they *receive* messages CC'd *to them*, rather than objecting on principle to doing it in reply to other people who aren't subscribed.