Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Random832 Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: QWERTY was not designed to intentionally slow typists down (was: Unicode normalisation [was Re: [beginner] What's wrong?]) Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2016 11:44:48 -0400 Lines: 18 Message-ID: References: <2796705.edb3E9ArW3@PointedEars.de> <1584744.4h7ToaqLat@PointedEars.de> <5705b9ef$0$1611$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <570748ec$0$1620$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <874mbcgfmd.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <753cdb8b-9f94-48d6-bc0d-589efba86afc@googlegroups.com> <8560vr627l.fsf_-_@benfinney.id.au> <570876f1$0$1619$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <1460216688.3801979.573748441.5F836BEB@webmail.messagingengine.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de G1MqvAZQM4ESkeJAWvptigsf1F6czvCpE6JEs75cpTQg== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.016 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.97; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:: [': 0.03; 'key.': 0.07; 'received:internal': 0.09; 'subject:not': 0.11; 'bars': 0.16; 'message-id:@webmail.messagingengine.com': 0.16; 'received:10.202': 0.16; 'received:10.202.2': 0.16; 'received:10.202.2.212': 0.16; 'received:66.111': 0.16; 'received:66.111.4': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:messagingengine.com': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'subject:Unicode': 0.16; 'subject:beginner': 0.16; 'subject:slow': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'typing': 0.18; 'subject:] ': 0.19; 'keys': 0.22; 'subject:skip:i 10': 0.22; '(or': 0.23; 'nearly': 0.23; "haven't": 0.24; 'thus': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'fri,': 0.27; 'idea': 0.28; 'actual': 0.28; 'closer': 0.29; 'subject: [': 0.29; 'anywhere': 0.30; 'point': 0.33; "d'aprano": 0.33; 'steven': 0.33; 'ones': 0.35; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'received:10': 0.37; 'really': 0.37; 'two': 0.37; 'thought': 0.37; 'received:66': 0.38; 'goes': 0.39; 'easily': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'where': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'press': 0.61; 'header:Message-Id:1': 0.61; 'further': 0.62; 'more': 0.63; 'apart': 0.70; 'physical': 0.72; 'hand': 0.82; 'basket': 0.84; 'hand.': 0.84; 'subject:down': 0.84; 'subject:skip:n 10': 0.84; 'hands': 0.96; 'hand,': 0.97 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fastmail.com; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-sasl-enc :x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=N1xwlNgjULb0+kX0cgOeq2c8uL8=; b=Lr/Scz xEKPIjrae3nOze0+CTMYCvpEokrDWG/E6Azpxj3kIQ0wymsviu2iLXubRBYS0Ya1 qy+oNInuAyTXkEOpnpFlCq9cZfLglQBAft/3bhBW3um6/6mmSCF9Hc7s+5ThGFD+ /qXfQap8kSzKR+QMW+IYwN9O9QI7znwdbqkO0= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=N1xwlNgjULb0+kX 0cgOeq2c8uL8=; b=bBrXj6eumnkL07F9T5vNU7Ak9XInFXdkKi69L3cEy1bPyHr OUxqdsjY5fl05lXk8e+JY9OvaSxxljIFaba70fd83TJ3zi1zHCUfHhp73EOybimM 7v7Mj2vncANLvW35AOxmx8+w9KJ+842t8HVi+Q66iseRTcKxqMj5GMws2Olo= X-Sasl-Enc: il0DZ1mBYYa4wIr7kyNiFScM5avFjibHaPd24YQjrYLr 1460216688 X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-eadf0bcf In-Reply-To: <570876f1$0$1619$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: <1460216688.3801979.573748441.5F836BEB@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Mailman-Original-References: <2796705.edb3E9ArW3@PointedEars.de> <1584744.4h7ToaqLat@PointedEars.de> <5705b9ef$0$1611$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <570748ec$0$1620$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <874mbcgfmd.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <753cdb8b-9f94-48d6-bc0d-589efba86afc@googlegroups.com> <8560vr627l.fsf_-_@benfinney.id.au> <570876f1$0$1619$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:106740 On Fri, Apr 8, 2016, at 23:28, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > And how did it enable fast typing? By *slowing down the typist*, and thus > having fewer jams. Er, no? The point is that type bars that are closer together collide more easily *at the same actual typing speed* than ones that are further apart - For Q to collide with P, they would have to both be nearly all the way to the platen at the same time, whereas Q can collide with A even a mere millimeter from the basket (or anywhere in between). I don't understand where this idea that alternating hands makes you slows you down came from in the first place... I suspect it's people who haven't really thought for a minute about the physical process of typing (to type "ec" you have to physically move your left hand, to type "en" your right hand can already be moving into place while your left hand presses the first key. The former is clearly slower than the latter.) This goes double for hunt-and-peck typing, where you have to move your whole hand to press _any_ two keys on the same hand.