Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!news.mixmin.net!rt.uk.eu.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.018 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.96; '*S*': 0.00; 'mailman.': 0.03; 'anders': 0.09; 'assuming': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'mailman': 0.10; 'python': 0.11; 'jan': 0.12; 'changes': 0.15; 'issue?': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'www.list.org': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'thu,': 0.19; '>>>': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'header': 0.24; 'signed': 0.27; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'am,': 0.29; 'subject:list': 0.30; 'lists': 0.32; 'python.org': 0.32; 'run': 0.32; 'subject:mailing': 0.33; 'could': 0.34; 'message.': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'wrong': 0.37; 'list': 0.37; 'list.': 0.37; 'problems': 0.38; 'ends': 0.38; 'filter': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'issue': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'rather': 0.38; 'received:71': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'either': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'is.': 0.60; 'spam.': 0.64; 'kept': 0.65; 'subject:there': 0.68; 'mail.': 0.69; 'to,': 0.72; 'jul': 0.74; 'behavior': 0.77; 'subject:this': 0.83; 'checks.': 0.84; 'fields,': 0.84; 'received:fios.verizon.net': 0.84; 'mails': 0.89 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Terry Reedy Subject: Re: Is there a tracker target for this mailing list? Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 16:07:49 -0400 References: <20140731153809.020b608d@wegge.dk> <20140731211110.296d041e@wegge.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-71-175-90-87.phlapa.fios.verizon.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 In-Reply-To: <20140731211110.296d041e@wegge.dk> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 27 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1406837287 news.xs4all.nl 2877 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:35376 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:75441 On 7/31/2014 3:11 PM, Anders Wegge Keller wrote: > On Thu, 31 Jul 2014 14:57:36 -0400 > Terry Reedy wrote: > >> On 7/31/2014 9:38 AM, Anders Wegge Keller wrote: >>> My spam filter have an issue with the way mails are sent to this list. >>> If a mail sent to python-list is DKIM-signed, the DKIM-Signature header >>> is kept in the mail. Since the mangling happening during distribution to >>> the list changes one of the signed header fields, rather a lot of the >>> mails to the list ends up in Spam. >>> >>> So where to report this issue? >> >> All python.org list are run with 'mailman', www.list.org , which has >> multiple lists about mailman. I am assuming that the behavior you >> describe is not specific to python-list. > > It is. The wikimedia/wikipedia/mediawiki lists I subscribe to, also use > Mailman. There are no problems with either wrong DKIM-signatures, nor wrong > spf checks. You could try python-list-owner (@ python . org), and Barry Warsaw and a Python mailman person should see the message. -- Terry Jan Reedy