Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.175 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.67; '*S*': 0.02; '1999,': 0.07; 'oh,': 0.09; '>>>': 0.14; 'received:173.11': 0.16; 'received:80.91': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229': 0.16; 'received:gmane.org': 0.16; 'received:list': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.19; 'maybe': 0.22; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.22; 'programming': 0.23; 'classes': 0.26; 'header :User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'writes:': 0.28; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.29; 'science,': 0.32; 'employee': 0.33; 'option': 0.33; 'to:addr :python-list': 0.35; 'subject:?': 0.35; 'received:org': 0.36; 'but': 0.37; 'why': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'said': 0.40; 'received:net': 0.60; 'shop': 0.62; 'yes': 0.62; 'received:173': 0.62; 'first': 0.62; 'back': 0.63; 'school': 0.65; 'our': 0.65; 'ict': 0.84; 'subject:Art': 0.84; 'sweeping': 0.84; 'schools': 0.91; 'subject:Science': 0.91; 'university.': 0.93 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Emile van Sebille Subject: Re: Is Programing Art or Science? Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 17:04:51 -0700 References: <87vclhn6u2.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 173-11-108-137-sfba.hfc.comcastbusiness.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312 Thunderbird/11.0 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 26 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1333411556 news.xs4all.nl 6845 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:57596 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:22559 On 4/2/2012 4:52 PM Jürgen Exner said... > "Pascal J. Bourguignon" wrote: >> ccc31807 writes: >> >>> Programming is neither an art nor a science, but a trade. > > Oh, that's why it is tought in trade schools alongside butchery, > plumbing, masonry, and chimney sweeping Yes -- back when we opened our first programming/consulting shop in 1999, our first employee was a trade school grad -- maybe ICS or ICT in San Francisco? > and why you don't find any > programming classes at university. Nobody said that the only option to learn programming was in university. Lots of us self-taught well before then.... Emile