Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.003 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'projects,': 0.05; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'python': 0.09; 'cgi': 0.09; 'killer': 0.09; 'languages:': 0.09; 'python).': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.10; '(whether': 0.16; '-tkc': 0.16; 'from:addr:python.list': 0.16; 'from:addr:tim.thechases.com': 0.16; 'from:name:tim chase': 0.16; 'hosting,': 0.16; 'message-id:@tim.thechases.com': 0.16; 'received:70.251': 0.16; 'received:dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net': 0.16; 'received:rcsntx.swbell.net': 0.16; 'received:swbell.net': 0.16; 'subject: \n ': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'deployment': 0.21; 'hosting.': 0.21; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.22; 'code.': 0.23; 'programming': 0.23; 'cc:2**0': 0.26; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'apps': 0.27; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.27; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.28; 'deploy': 0.28; 'subject: [': 0.28; '(including': 0.29; 'ease': 0.30; 'feature': 0.31; 'ends': 0.34; 'things': 0.35; 'expensive': 0.35; 'quickly': 0.35; 'languages': 0.36; 'being': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'received:net': 0.60; 'needing': 0.62; 'more': 0.63; 'offer': 0.63; 'slow': 0.65; 'wish': 0.71; 'day': 0.72; 'to:addr:yahoo.com': 0.82; 'received:50.22': 0.84; 'shared,': 0.84; 'vps,': 0.84; 'dream': 0.96 Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 18:28:58 -0500 From: Tim Chase User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.24) Gecko/20111120 Icedove/3.1.16 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Howell Subject: Re: Number of languages known [was Re: Python is readable] - somewhat OT References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - boston.accountservergroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - python.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - tim.thechases.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 19 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1333409320 news.xs4all.nl 6950 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:53367 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:22556 > PHP is a language that I wish would die off quickly and > gracefully. I feel like the good things of PHP have already > been subsumed into the ecosystems of stronger programming > languages (including Python). The one killer feature PHP has to offer over other languages: ease of efficient deployment on cheap/free hosting. When I go to deploy Python projects, it ends up either being as slow CGI on the cheap/free hosting, or it ends up needing WSGI/gunicorn/whatever on a more expensive service (whether shared, VPS, or full hardware). I dream of a day that deploying Python/Django apps is as cheap/easy as deploying PHP code. -tkc