Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.albasani.net!newsfeed.freenet.ag!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.002 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'python,': 0.02; 'syntax': 0.04; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'php.': 0.07; 'python': 0.09; 'python).': 0.09; 'targets': 0.09; 'do,': 0.14; 'module': 0.15; '(and,': 0.16; 'amiga': 0.16; 'limiting': 0.16; 'received:80.91': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229': 0.16; 'received:gmane.org': 0.16; 'received:list': 0.16; 'shell"': 0.16; 'subprocess': 0.16; 'variations': 0.16; 'steve': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'replacing': 0.17; 'thu,': 0.17; 'features,': 0.21; 'latter': 0.21; 'url:home': 0.21; "python's": 0.23; 'programming': 0.23; "i've": 0.24; 'environment': 0.25; 'interface': 0.25; 'fine': 0.26; 'execution': 0.27; 'ibm': 0.27; 'script': 0.27; 'subject: [': 0.28; 'header:X -Complaints-To:1': 0.29; 'command': 0.30; "can't": 0.32; 'point,': 0.32; 'actual': 0.33; 'agree': 0.33; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.35; 'text': 0.35; 'does': 0.36; 'beyond': 0.36; 'received:org': 0.36; 'but': 0.37; 'object': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'charset:us- ascii': 0.38; 'some': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'received:net': 0.60; 'become': 0.61; 'overall': 0.62; '2012': 0.62; 'different': 0.62; 'great': 0.63; 'compliant': 0.65; 'gone': 0.72; 'archaic': 0.84; 'justify': 0.84; 'model.': 0.84; 'dennis': 0.91; 'advantages': 0.95 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Dennis Lee Bieber Subject: Re: Number of languages known [was Re: Python is readable] - somewhat OT Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2012 18:05:49 -0400 Organization: > Bestiaria Support Staff < References: <28983178-6745-438c-937d-cc6349aa18b1@t8g2000pbe.googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-76-249-31-216.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 3.3/32.846 X-No-Archive: YES X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 29 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1333404851 news.xs4all.nl 6842 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:48422 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:22549 On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 08:48:53 -0700 (PDT), Steve Howell declaimed the following in gmane.comp.python.general: > I agree with you on the overall point, but I think that Python > actually does a fine job of replacing REXX and PHP. I've used both of > the latter (and, of course, Python). REXX and PHP are great at what > they do, but I don't think their slight advantages over Python justify > all the weight they carry--incompatible syntax to Python, archaic > libraries, missing modern language features, etc. > REXX is inhibited by the architectures to which it has been ported -- limiting the ADDRESS targets to variations of Python's os.system() or popen() calls; even the subprocess module can't get beyond the all or nothing execution model. Much different from the original IBM environment (and, biased, the Amiga implementation may have gone beyond the IBM one in capabilities) wherein compliant programs become the "command shell" for REXX command processing -- actual bidirectional interactive interprocess communication. Window's COM system offers some of that capability, but buried in a cryptic object programming system -- nothing like having a script sending the /same/ command that one would use in a text interface to the target program. -- Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber AF6VN wlfraed@ix.netcom.com HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/