Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Michael Torrie Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Don't put your software in the public domain Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 07:14:30 -0600 Lines: 22 Message-ID: References: <574ef865$0$1618$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <5751539f$0$1586$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de Lpt61UePNsQ0SkriaojUYw9rzlljfv5Qi1PPZpcs4FZQ== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.002 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'distributing': 0.07; 'gpl': 0.07; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.09; 'software;': 0.09; 'subject:software': 0.09; 'terms,': 0.09; 'received:209.85.218': 0.10; 'explicitly': 0.15; '2016': 0.16; 'court.': 0.16; 'did,': 0.16; 'from:addr:torriem': 0.16; 'from:name:michael torrie': 0.16; 'head:': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'shooting': 0.16; 'subject:domain': 0.16; 'why,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; "wouldn't": 0.16; '>': 0.18; 'cc:2**0': 0.20; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.20; 'prevent': 0.20; 'permitted': 0.22; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'software.': 0.25; "doesn't": 0.26; '(which': 0.26; 'distribute': 0.27; 'right.': 0.27; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'if,': 0.29; 'subject:public': 0.29; 'themselves': 0.29; "i'm": 0.30; 'certainly': 0.30; 'law.': 0.30; 'says': 0.32; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'court': 0.35; 'happened': 0.35; 'legally': 0.36; 'received:209.85': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'being': 0.37; 'agree': 0.37; '(2)': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.38; '(1)': 0.38; 'sure': 0.39; 'subject:the': 0.39; 'still': 0.40; 'some': 0.40; 'software': 0.40; 'ever': 0.60; 'subject:your': 0.75; 'court,': 0.84; 'legitimacy': 0.84; 'valid,': 0.84; 'to:none': 0.91; 'involved.': 0.91; 'subject:Don': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc; bh=vuYe4wcAzRM10Yj8hVdIq4lnjjMhnusXOaWmC6WD/jQ=; b=hq0fp+S8pRYR8TJcdpALDAYC4jcC9gYwjGne8aSmqU9rhuB88eGzr72yIRyKA0J64L +EVKPFiLY/F+SYZY3qPaHHniLT/67zR5UIDTOHXooMMKvRHBNxEgyoGJ1kFBJGnVGP6/ +RYwpH5J806zvR8sp29swAy/ao8HOBqAGLkpCTLehghYbjjm2CDYaGKFpmYcmSk0eif8 sCHoC1Hm+HS1Sn00ITgdqHO0oi6gWAsCdd5uLluot0a1edvjRqPU4xLre2jSetlJLjRM SyfJgnJIuQj7BQgqcfibeQM0HgC/dyz+rCwfQe6Lp8YgVL1w7UmvuNR7R5yncTI5YjrC F1lg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:cc; bh=vuYe4wcAzRM10Yj8hVdIq4lnjjMhnusXOaWmC6WD/jQ=; b=LgWptXMsyZJjSF4ze3Bvg+1uSG38tESuKG5QGrkMQKfQRGFi3LPh4Sa8pn+BiuQ+f7 Y292QvZ3BXavE5BCS5DwSFOGRXipYuetu0Jm+LZeIGVv7ARkk7Sm3wXXZmdW4Kf03Yr+ FFtdMwmwzaEeu304djKwaiS96cEEWTggRB3aFvS2jaSufovsRFqvKGl0ANgE086BxpMH tu8uTIc0PYR72UoOkVHOeCWz8IoSsf0hUH9Dlx6S/jjNWb9+oiEJNOd4+ZWeK9GIyLga 2spNPZSUuZLCXWUaZfHtvUB5BreJfRgkFKcTA6TCRJFQEoNYW8EPPScJSznICwnqC1rc v86Q== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tKwYq8JgFwNXoDyjkEhbGm5FQsY8vflLCl3ROCmft2GiA4M1f3j5Asz3FYVu0kYzotxzDnj8y+guj59Cg== X-Received: by 10.202.77.129 with SMTP id a123mr1529691oib.143.1464959670097; Fri, 03 Jun 2016 06:14:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5751539f$0$1586$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.22 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: X-Mailman-Original-References: <574ef865$0$1618$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <5751539f$0$1586$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:109413 On Jun 3, 2016 04:57, "Steven D'Aprano" wrote: > (1) If the GPL licence is valid, then they are in breach of the licence > terms, the licence is revoked, and they are not legally permitted to > distribute or use the software; > > (2) If, as some people insist, the GPL licence is not valid, then they have > no valid licence, and are not legally permitted to distribute or use the > software. > > That's why, for all the talk about the GPL never being held up in court, > *nobody* has ever challenged it in court. If they did, and failed, then > they would be in breach of copyright. If they succeeded, they would still > be in breach of copyright. Any user of GPLed software who challenged it > would be shooting themselves in the head: *either way*, win or lose, they > would be in breach of copyright law. I'm not sure this is completely right. The GPL explicitly says one doesn't have to agree to the GPL to use the software. The GPL only comes into affect when distribution is involved. So challenging the legitimacy of the GPL in court (which certainly has happened in Germany) wouldn't prevent one from using the GPL software. Only from distributing it.