Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!news.mixmin.net!rt.uk.eu.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.107 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.79; '*S*': 0.00; '(at': 0.04; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'granted,': 0.07; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'amiga': 0.16; 'complicated,': 0.16; 'message-id:@4ax.com': 0.16; "o'reilly": 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'too).': 0.16; 'user?': 0.16; 'later': 0.20; 'fit': 0.20; 'url:home': 0.24; 'chapter': 0.26; 'least': 0.26; 'excel': 0.26; 'gets': 0.27; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; 'character': 0.29; "doesn't": 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; '(which': 0.31; 'gives': 0.31; 'included': 0.31; 'program,': 0.31; '(since': 0.31; 'etc.).': 0.31; 'gaming': 0.31; 'text': 0.33; 'table': 0.34; 'maybe': 0.34; "i'd": 0.34; 'could': 0.34; 'except': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; '+0200,': 0.36; 'bought': 0.36; "i'll": 0.36; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'anything': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'enough': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'users': 0.40; 'days': 0.60; 'even': 0.60; 'office': 0.60; 'most': 0.60; 'back': 0.62; 'real': 0.63; 'group,': 0.63; 'more': 0.64; 'great': 0.65; 'skip:\xe2 10': 0.65; 'natural': 0.68; 'home': 0.69; 'user,': 0.69; 'records': 0.73; '8bit%:43': 0.74; 'jul': 0.74; 'sale': 0.75; 'being...': 0.84; 'brochures,': 0.84; 'computation.': 0.84; 'it\xe2\x80\x99s': 0.84; 'average': 0.93; 'received:108': 0.93; 'suited': 0.93; '2013': 0.98 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Dennis Lee Bieber Subject: Re: .Net Like Gui Builder for Python? Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 11:30:40 -0400 Organization: IISS Elusive Unicorn References: <53D2CAD8.1040306@schwertberger.de> <757bd14c-3742-4674-b305-b0cfe5a58b90@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-108-79-216-167.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 6.00/32.1186 X-No-Archive: YES X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 34 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1406475050 news.xs4all.nl 2831 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:42056 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:75271 On Sun, 27 Jul 2014 10:10:44 +0200, Chris “Kwpolska” Warrick declaimed the following: >Access? For a home user? That’s insane! Most home users actually >won’t use Access even if they have it. It’s pretty complicated, >especially for your average Joe. > Even though it is a natural fit for what many force Excel into being... a table of identical records with no real computation. >And Publisher could work out for a home user, except Word can do the >same, equally well (at least for a home user). Why would they play >with a more complicated program, when they have a good enough thing in >Word? > Maybe Word /now/... but not back in the days of Office 97. Granted, back then Publisher (which WAS included in one of the smaller Office packages) wasn't suited for anything with long text -- it was great for one to five page pamphlets or brochures, or Yard Sale signs. I suspect I was spoiled by the software I'd been using on my Amiga (Professional Page, and later PageStream) I'll admit I don't use Publisher as much as I used to (since I'm no longer in a gaming group, there's less need for character sheets, histories, etc.). M$ doesn't help in that Publisher gets practically no documentation. Even the O'Reilly Office 2013 "green book" gives it a mere 28-page chapter -- even One Note got more pages (29)! PowerPoint was given five whole chapters, and Access received four (Granted, I bought the Access 2013 specific green book too). -- Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber AF6VN wlfraed@ix.netcom.com HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/