Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!news.mixmin.net!rt.uk.eu.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.053 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.90; '*S*': 0.00; '(at': 0.04; 'essentially': 0.04; 'subject:Python': 0.06; '(b)': 0.07; 'duplicate': 0.07; 'front-end': 0.07; 'utf-8': 0.07; 'steve': 0.09; 'gui': 0.12; 'books': 0.15; '8:40': 0.16; 'complicated,': 0.16; 'hayes': 0.16; 'help...': 0.16; 'ignoring': 0.16; 'user?': 0.16; 'sat,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'creating': 0.23; '(a)': 0.24; 'builder': 0.24; 'example.': 0.24; 'least': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; "doesn't": 0.30; 'especially': 0.30; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; '(which': 0.31; 'program,': 0.31; 'weeks': 0.32; 'sense': 0.34; 'maybe': 0.34; 'could': 0.34; 'except': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'version': 0.36; 'useful': 0.36; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'to:addr :python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'enough': 0.39; 'skip:p 20': 0.39; 'users': 0.40; 'how': 0.40; 'even': 0.60; 'skip:u 10': 0.60; 'office': 0.60; 'most': 0.60; 'from:charset:utf-8': 0.61; 'advanced': 0.63; 'more': 0.64; 'school': 0.64; 'skip:\xe2 10': 0.65; '26,': 0.68; 'home': 0.69; 'user,': 0.69; '8bit%:43': 0.74; 'jul': 0.74; 'photo': 0.78; '(ie': 0.84; 'cards,': 0.84; 'excel,': 0.84; 'free:': 0.84; 'it\xe2\x80\x99s': 0.84; 'jet': 0.84; 'same,': 0.91; 'average': 0.93; 'have.': 0.93 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=YLVhI5ME9i1gIEqVxyv5DdkUpG5sRTwxfDXt52IA3ec=; b=QqCdJMwRHMkAYewtbSGbkKaF5Ye35IpAlIvnSgpXr4qfUQtwZkbMS2OxLvPD4xwDmi rQRZrf57odTJntiYaDh+QV4m8WQS8qEvm+XQls2qPEQ+uqWgxYjRRaxzeAztYHQ1lib+ GhKKjDZkrxueGJOqSnYDQMrc7XCl5Ykew1CyFz7LajMZpy194FdAEMPuokJdpZsEvVW/ CKOkoQOT/N2jHJiO5VLHFtXGH94F4EL88+4AKKehlKzYI+mrQXZgVZhY7ceKkQ4AfJVf hEKjtzoYBgrSedm8HRPAk5EkQD99pbusivoQT7iJtK+ESte6Efs/24WfgRBiAk+bkfX6 j3xQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.67.51 with SMTP id k19mr20568368igt.39.1406448644454; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 01:10:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <53D2CAD8.1040306@schwertberger.de> <757bd14c-3742-4674-b305-b0cfe5a58b90@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 10:10:44 +0200 Subject: Re: .Net Like Gui Builder for Python? From: =?UTF-8?B?Q2hyaXMg4oCcS3dwb2xza2HigJ0gV2Fycmljaw==?= To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 42 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1406448652 news.xs4all.nl 2830 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:40440 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:75267 On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 8:40 PM, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > The way they package Office doesn't help... Ignoring the > subscription-based "Office 365" I was at Best Buy a few weeks ago... The > only local-install version of Office (Home&Office I think) had Word, Exce= l, > and PowerPoint. > > How many /home/ users are creating presentations/slide-shows? Drop > PowerPoint and include Access (which is essentially a GUI builder front-e= nd > for the Jet RDBM engine) and Publisher (seems a home user would do more > with invitations, cards, and maybe reports/brochures)! Access? For a home user? That=E2=80=99s insane! Most home users actually won=E2=80=99t use Access even if they have it. It=E2=80=99s pretty complic= ated, especially for your average Joe. And Publisher could work out for a home user, except Word can do the same, equally well (at least for a home user). Why would they play with a more complicated program, when they have a good enough thing in Word? Also, home users DO use PowerPoint. One can make a photo album, for example. Or, if you have kids, they might have to create a presentation for school (as a form of an essay). PowerPoint is MUCH more useful for a home user than (a) a user-unfriendly advanced program; or (b) a more-or-less duplicate of what they have. On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 6:49 AM, Steve Hayes wrote: > The one thing that isn't available with LibreOffice is OneNote, which you > don't seem to be able to get separately, and doesn't seem to have any > documentation (ie 3rd party books on it). But there is Evernote. OneNote is actually available for free: http://www.onenote.com/ (though Evernote is superior) --=20 Chris =E2=80=9CKwpolska=E2=80=9D Warrick PGP: 5EAAEA16 stop html mail | always bottom-post | only UTF-8 makes sense