Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'python,': 0.02; 'package,': 0.03; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'linux,': 0.07; 'tkinter': 0.07; 'default.': 0.09; 'sanity': 0.09; 'cc:addr :python-list': 0.11; 'python': 0.11; 'gui': 0.12; '24,': 0.16; 'be:': 0.16; 'noble': 0.16; 'portable': 0.16; 'sane': 0.16; 'subject:GUI': 0.16; 'subject:desktop': 0.16; 'wxpython': 0.16; 'folks': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'library': 0.18; 'module': 0.19; 'projects,': 0.19; 'thu,': 0.19; 'platforms': 0.22; 'cc:addr:gmail.com': 0.22; 'email addr:gmail.com>': 0.22; 'separate': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'cc:2**1': 0.23; 'creating': 0.23; 'looks': 0.24; "i've": 0.25; '>': 0.26; 'distribute': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'idea': 0.28; 'chris': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; 'especially': 0.30; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'included': 0.31; 'subject:next': 0.31; 'interface': 0.32; 'checking': 0.33; 'advice': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'next': 0.36; 'requirements': 0.37; 'two': 0.37; 'project': 0.37; 'skip:& 10': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'that,': 0.38; 'little': 0.38; 'most': 0.60; 'ago.': 0.61; 'from:charset:utf-8': 0.61; 'skip:n 10': 0.64; 'kept': 0.65; 'skip:\xe2 10': 0.65; 'to:addr:gmail.com': 0.65; 'worth': 0.66; 'biggest': 0.67; '8bit%:43': 0.74; 'jul': 0.74; '100%': 0.77; ':).': 0.84; 'native.': 0.84; 'subject:Project': 0.84 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=7dqJiUYcwexH9JbfV/gQDgCVEtomjTX1Q5K3Ywjp7a4=; b=dXsFamiS20F5UqTQIk4/ZSwM61Z6DtdDcA6VtFvA5e37553pslk8Zt31k3GvLt4fEx DF36O7TcSBl1RzoIM1fgPmnLBv6yn5HUbYx261ZXMkb77D8R3pW/HC3i3MuLKX45miTF jL+JGWPu8/iVWu8BLwW6MPiObBTYUWg19XrmefFEZlmpqAez+zP/w/xKIf/Y4/pU/95e 6hN8YmKg91UrgWCfs6ZBwOEgdxoM2+fCXYmOdHr895adMkw50yDq7Fqt1XWMR0fpYGCq ftawWDGoB4GW3qmulC7ypF1hEetUSa+T/98A4fBL/i1hjCs47IiXVV9NAVdhDg8J69gx fedA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.43.136.134 with SMTP id ik6mr14129088icc.6.1406221445574; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 10:04:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <93c42547-557b-4839-baba-9ed54120595e@googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 19:04:05 +0200 Subject: Re: Exploring Python for next desktop GUI Project From: =?UTF-8?B?Q2hyaXMg4oCcS3dwb2xza2HigJ0gV2Fycmljaw==?= To: Zachary Ware Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c21a38bd353b04fef37129 Cc: "python-list@python.org" , Noble Bell X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 79 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1406221448 news.xs4all.nl 2910 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:53126 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:75153 --001a11c21a38bd353b04fef37129 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Jul 24, 2014 6:28 PM, "Zachary Ware" wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Noble Bell wrote: > > I am exploring the idea of creating my next desktop GUI project in Python and would like a little advice from you folks about a couple of requirements. > > > > My requirements will be: > > 1. Needs to be portable across platforms with native LAF (Windows,Linux,OSX) > > The Python standard library includes the tkinter package, which is an > interface to Tcl/Tk. The 'ttk' module provides themed/themable > widgets that have the platform-native look by default. I've > successfully used tkinter for a few projects, and have kept most of my > sanity :). One of the biggest benefits to tkinter is that, since it > is included with Python, so you don't have to distribute a separate > GUI toolkit. Tk is neither sane nor native-feeling, especially on Linux, where it looks like something from two decades ago. On other platforms, it also is not 100% native. I personally recommend PyQt4/PySide. wxPython is also worth checking out. And it might be better to stay with Python 2, there are still things that don't work with Py3k that you might find crucial. --=20 Chris =E2=80=9CKwpolska=E2=80=9D Warrick Sent from my SGS3. --001a11c21a38bd353b04fef37129 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Jul 24, 2014 6:28 PM, "Zachary Ware" <zachary.ware+pylist@gmail.com<= /a>> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Noble Bell <noblebell@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I am exploring the idea of creating my next desktop GUI project i= n Python and would like a little advice from you folks about a couple of re= quirements.
> >
> > My requirements will be:
> > 1. Needs to be portable across platforms with native LAF (Windows= ,Linux,OSX)
>
> The Python standard library includes the tkinter package, which is an<= br> > interface to Tcl/Tk. =C2=A0The 'ttk' module provides themed/th= emable
> widgets that have the platform-native look by default. =C2=A0I've<= br> > successfully used tkinter for a few projects, and have kept most of my=
> sanity :). =C2=A0One of the biggest benefits to tkinter is that, since= it
> is included with Python, so you don't have to distribute a separat= e
> GUI toolkit.

Tk is neither sane nor native-feeling, especially on Linux, = where it looks like something from two decades ago. On other platforms, it = also is not 100% native.

I personally recommend PyQt4/PySide. wxPython is also worth = checking out. And it might be better to stay with Python 2, there are still= things that don't work with Py3k that you might find crucial.

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Chris =E2=80=9CKwpolska=E2=80=9D Warrick <http://chriswarrick.com/>
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