Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!news.mixmin.net!eweka.nl!hq-usenetpeers.eweka.nl!xlned.com!feeder5.xlned.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.034 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.93; '*S*': 0.00; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'suggest': 0.14; 'hierarchy.': 0.16; 'subject: \n ': 0.16; 'subject:OOP': 0.16; 'subject:object': 0.16; 'subject:possible': 0.16; 'subject:programming': 0.16; 'subject:type': 0.16; 'usage,': 0.16; 'work,': 0.20; 'programming': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'forming': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.24; 'first,': 0.26; 'subject:/': 0.26; 'gets': 0.27; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'rest': 0.29; 'strongly': 0.30; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'url:wiki': 0.31; 'origin': 0.31; 'community': 0.33; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'ahead': 0.38; 'that,': 0.38; 'read': 0.60; 'simple': 0.61; 'you.': 0.62; 'kind': 0.63; 'subject:The': 0.64; 'more': 0.64; 'done:': 0.84; 'washington': 0.93 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=XJC1BhE/4VzhQ3PLFUj3lzy/rdqwtNAbQucf55WIWRA=; b=SiUF2h2pnCg46p3erfuDoMpPBJIgTYjZ6fkzp/h6pmFN34wIAMSKIBGkv/kq8ULFtA T2YONUUl+mwOpva1VRkAm4A+KIsg5lsAFnj8ie3o8vMK04bPk3R7UcqvX3q8dwiGGmTs fxRIyqy3W5aG7TJfrRseCRF3Lh2HvK0WrNp16uCx7sK2vrQs4UURLmwa/HfTvY/AN9jm VcLxkrZePj7oDWJ3iENgXvk0VlLew1UIX0DU8z29yv/sUq27J58U1Ebraew3OP2rgkV9 miMvuhDNOtvcI4F6LckeNzQW585rjkREnHJ+65Lza/yJoLSsc0OyNfaqQNmDrgcO4ECQ 7gzQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.248.200 with SMTP id yo8mr4378665wjc.36.1367440360151; Wed, 01 May 2013 13:32:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5170A77F.7040002@nedbatchelder.com> References: <516bd241$0$29872$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <516C3C44.6010706@rece.vub.ac.be> <51709740$0$29977$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <5170A77F.7040002@nedbatchelder.com> Date: Wed, 1 May 2013 13:32:39 -0700 Subject: Re: The type/object distinction and possible synthesis of OOP and imperative programming languages From: Mark Janssen To: Ned Batchelder Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 14 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1367440361 news.xs4all.nl 15948 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:33855 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:44601 >> Here's a simple rule to resolve the ambiguity. Whoever publishes >> first, gets to claim origin of a word and its usage, kind of like a >> BDFL. The rest can adapt around that, make up their own word, or be >> corrected as the community requires. > > You seem to want to squeeze all of computer science and programming into a > tidy hierarchy. It won't work, it's not tidy. I strongly suggest you read > more about computer science before forming more opinions. You have a lot to > learn ahead of you. Done: see the wikiwikiweb: http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?ComputerScienceVersionTwo -- MarkJ Tacoma, Washington