Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!xlned.com!feeder1.xlned.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'win32': 0.03; 'tries': 0.07; 'encode': 0.09; 'latter': 0.09; 'output,': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'statements': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'wrote': 0.14; 'codec': 0.16; 'emit': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'stderr': 0.16; 'stdout': 0.16; 'subject:Unicode': 0.16; 'thanks,': 0.17; 'bit': 0.19; 'seems': 0.21; '(in': 0.22; 'separate': 0.22; 'string,': 0.24; 'skip:" 30': 0.26; 'header:X -Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'character': 0.29; 'skip:( 20': 0.30; '"",': 0.31; 'prints': 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; 'writes:': 0.31; 'file': 0.32; 'quite': 0.32; '(most': 0.33; "can't": 0.35; 'no,': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'recent': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'skip:u 10': 0.60; 'skip:c 50': 0.60; 'more': 0.64; 'frank': 0.68; 'skip:n 40': 0.81; '2014,': 0.84; 'noise': 0.84 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: "Frank Millman" Subject: Re: Unicode, stdout, and stderr Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 09:06:15 +0200 References: <87lhrl28ie.fsf@nautilus.nautilus> X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 197.87.184.209 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.3790.4657 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4913 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 35 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1406012790 news.xs4all.nl 2917 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:47768 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:74976 "Lele Gaifax" wrote in message news:87lhrl28ie.fsf@nautilus.nautilus... > "Frank Millman" writes: > >> Python 3.4.1 (v3.4.1:c0e311e010fc, May 18 2014, 10:38:22) [MSC v.1600 32 >> bit >> (In >> tel)] on win32 >> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. >>>>> x = '\u2119' >>>>> x # this uses stderr >> '\u2119' >>>>> print(x) # this uses stdout >> Traceback (most recent call last): >> File "", line 1, in >> File "C:\Python34\lib\encodings\cp437.py", line 19, in encode >> return codecs.charmap_encode(input,self.errors,encoding_map)[0] >> UnicodeEncodeError: 'charmap' codec can't encode character '\u2119' in >> position >> 0: character maps to >>>>> > > No, both statements actually emit noise on the standard output, but the > former prints the *repr* of the string, the latter tries to encode it to > CP437, which you console seems to be using. > Thanks, Lele, but I don't think that is quite right - see my separate response to Steven Frank