Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!xlned.com!feeder1.xlned.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.003 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'win32': 0.03; 'important,': 0.07; 'encode': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'windows': 0.15; 'behave': 0.16; 'codec': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'stderr': 0.16; 'stdout': 0.16; 'subject:Unicode': 0.16; 'bit': 0.19; 'seems': 0.21; '>>>': 0.22; '(in': 0.22; 'skip:" 30': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'character': 0.29; 'skip:( 20': 0.30; '"",': 0.31; 'file': 0.32; 'run': 0.32; '(most': 0.33; 'could': 0.34; "can't": 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'thanks': 0.36; 'server': 0.38; 'to:addr :python-list': 0.38; 'recent': 0.39; 'explain': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'skip:u 10': 0.60; 'easy': 0.60; 'skip:c 50': 0.60; 'more': 0.64; 'between': 0.67; 'frank': 0.68; '2014,': 0.84 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: "Frank Millman" Subject: Unicode, stdout, and stderr Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 08:18:08 +0200 X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 197.87.184.209 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.3790.4657 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4913 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 36 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1406009902 news.xs4all.nl 2865 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:56369 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:74968 Hi all This is not important, but I would appreciate it if someone could explain the following, run from cmd.exe on Windows Server 2003 - C:\>python Python 3.4.1 (v3.4.1:c0e311e010fc, May 18 2014, 10:38:22) [MSC v.1600 32 bit (In tel)] on win32 Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. >>> x = '\u2119' >>> x # this uses stderr '\u2119' >>> print(x) # this uses stdout Traceback (most recent call last): File "", line 1, in File "C:\Python34\lib\encodings\cp437.py", line 19, in encode return codecs.charmap_encode(input,self.errors,encoding_map)[0] UnicodeEncodeError: 'charmap' codec can't encode character '\u2119' in position 0: character maps to >>> It seems that there is a difference between writing to stdout and writing to stderr. My questions are - 1. What is the difference? 2. Is there an easy way to get stdout to behave the same as stderr? Thanks Frank Millman