Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.010 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:IDLE': 0.04; 'granted,': 0.07; '22,': 0.09; 'function,': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python- list': 0.11; 'consciously': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'surprising': 0.16; 'unexpected': 0.16; ':-)': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'library': 0.18; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; "i've": 0.25; 'equivalent': 0.26; 'skip:" 20': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'feature': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; 'subject:) ': 0.29; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'problem': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'subject:more': 0.64; 'effectively': 0.66; 'useful.': 0.68; 'default': 0.69; 'jul': 0.74; 'to:none': 0.92; 'state.': 0.95 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=rka7SAQYhLoYgcAdprIhJBkhJ2sl+IXt3lS9MvZelGI=; b=ExBwwxgkANc29BcF6zvx6hphxc6tgUDlA+D2SRHGtSIt20WCjdqurgPJ4f9gNWSy/c hhMpjPPU2CBO4my0fSzdTmU5inLA7Fq/1bGx3622/2lIYJbNZW/iffONpre3r+epACIA N9XDtS91O0fe3UGfMsUVKlWCkAHPYK9W77/Wn3khdfZPwUfa9EpAftvxQYKq0zB0rrAG fB7qtPHOdARHhx6IyYEQE+kOUVEDR6owReEfFxrfUc1HVB62ZNNHDP81zaL2pVvQiuxK V+vI4qvTE8lAzHOop51Dt7dR3FDuL4SQdIQixJ7T6rzJH0SvKca7mevJ4Tc+lEXqt6Ji Nlnw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.220.166.9 with SMTP id k9mr30885394vcy.20.1405958709460; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 09:05:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87egxewvq5.fsf@nautilus.nautilus> References: <232acf45-096d-466a-aa75-06d8c378b128@googlegroups.com> <53cc376e$0$2898$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> <53926733-5e65-482f-96bc-0171c6a93d59@googlegroups.com> <4882fd4d-b772-4ebb-8aaa-0c20be6051b6@googlegroups.com> <87egxewvq5.fsf@nautilus.nautilus> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 02:05:09 +1000 Subject: Re: PyWart(2.7.8) IDLE is more buggy than "Joe's apartment"! From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 13 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1405958712 news.xs4all.nl 2855 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:37377 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:74925 On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 1:57 AM, Lele Gaifax wrote: > Granted, the readline library exposes a "operate-and-get-next" function, > by default bound to \C-o, with the same behaviour as the cmd.exe > one. I find it very handy in the scenario you picted. So again, > "feature" and "bug" may be effectively subjective :-) I've never used it, but from the name, I would take it to be equivalent to "enter, down-arrow" in the above scenario. As a single action, that's less surprising and just as useful. The problem isn't when you consciously want the feature - it's when you DON'T want it and get this unexpected state. ChrisA