Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.007 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; '21,': 0.07; 'currently,': 0.09; 'module)': 0.09; 'separately': 0.09; 'useless': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; '@property': 0.16; 'dialog.': 0.16; 'effect,': 0.16; 'effect.': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'idle.': 0.16; 'magic': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 's/he': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'mon,': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'idea': 0.28; 'mode': 0.30; 'subject:please': 0.30; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; 'gives': 0.31; 'code': 0.31; '(although': 0.31; 'doc': 0.31; 'helpful.': 0.31; 'subject:users': 0.31; 'them?': 0.31; 'noticed': 0.34; 'subject: (': 0.35; "can't": 0.35; 'case,': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'idle': 0.36; 'right?': 0.36; 'useful': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'level': 0.37; 'configured': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'explain': 0.39; 'does': 0.39; 'sure': 0.39; 'users': 0.40; 'how': 0.40; 'affect': 0.61; 'telling': 0.64; 'situation': 0.65; 'jul': 0.74; 'subject:read': 0.84; 'to:none': 0.92 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=4vPYSiayb+Bu7MrfXByq1YO6kBbAkPz+Fzx54LT6tx8=; b=LKegqOw8E38eZzHPLD1AjiS0fb2ItBP3EG7oRx3imblp1Np/JYShrWVBeWX6rNgoTF LzEO2XY78c8RdhDOXsmbE2O8ZoXh9J3FmswyBp2gdR7O1ah1meE4vUaE0YfFF1M2K7Sz KE5rmXYjdCVF4PsExwVx2EJqDh7jdEH8/41yQ2nmnX4zkJX0t+kPhSPpHqYky5VopMSh zF9xtfra/ZPK6Ql8GAWmZopN+LDc5xD2fSEXoZVtB+JsQJR2Q5EJzn+DG/g1c3CoBh2n KfWkWggXR0T7mKHyF150EU56NmeimwUPte0RCfzBxlWzgr79btxNe2MPDgKxQFVGSMwt Q4bA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.220.7.71 with SMTP id c7mr677vcc.77.1405913641372; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 20:34:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <87iomy4ciy.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <53c5f6dc$0$9505$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <87egxl4zq8.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <53c73ff0$0$29897$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <9ef930a0-5a41-4a20-a13a-003c9e8246fe@googlegroups.com> <9b5557e3-45ea-4d3b-81cd-90d69322c556@googlegroups.com> <64e2ac85-5c95-4834-b140-2189b884fb02@googlegroups.com> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 13:34:01 +1000 Subject: Re: Idle's Shell: prompts and indents (was ...) Idle users please read From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 15 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1405913649 news.xs4all.nl 2889 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:53033 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:74902 On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Terry Reedy wrote: > A few users have noticed (and complained) that setting sys.ps1 and sys.ps2 > *in the batch mode user process* has no effect. The Idle doc should better > explain why this is and should be. User code should not affect the > operation of Idle. Idle is separately configured through dialogs. As I understand it, setting them has *absolutely* no effect, currently, right? There's no situation in which it would be useful to set them? In that case, it might be useful to put some magic in there (although I'm not sure it's possible; can't use @property at top level in a module) that gives a notification - pointing users to the dialog. No idea how you'd go about it, but telling someone when what s/he does is useless can be helpful. ChrisA