Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.033 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.93; '*S*': 0.00; 'broken': 0.04; 'subject:IDLE': 0.04; 'pop': 0.05; 'prevents': 0.09; 'sure,': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'bug': 0.12; '"file': 0.16; '"hide': 0.16; '-tkc': 0.16; 'from:addr:python.list': 0.16; 'from:addr:tim.thechases.com': 0.16; 'from:name:tim chase': 0.16; 'reproduce': 0.16; 'prevent': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'command': 0.22; 'appears': 0.22; 'select': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'versions': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.24; "i've": 0.25; 'least': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'subject:) ': 0.29; 'getting': 0.31; 'dialog': 0.31; 'layer': 0.31; 'covered': 0.32; 'text': 0.33; 'open': 0.33; 'running': 0.33; 'could': 0.34; 'display': 0.35; 'johnson': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'idle': 0.36; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.36; 'application': 0.37; 'step': 0.37; 'manager': 0.38; 'stable': 0.38; 'window': 0.38; 'expect': 0.39; 'does': 0.39; 'free': 0.61; 'new': 0.61; 'refer': 0.63; 'choose': 0.64; 'subject:more': 0.64; 'more': 0.64; 'to:addr:gmail.com': 0.65; 'here': 0.66; 'covers': 0.68; 'repeat': 0.74; 'behavior': 0.77; 'eyes': 0.78; 'inform': 0.78; 'activated': 0.84; 'maximize': 0.84; 'received:50.22': 0.84; 'taskbar': 0.84; 'rick': 0.93 Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 21:30:08 -0500 From: Tim Chase To: Rick Johnson Subject: Re: PyWart(2.7.8) IDLE is more buggy than "Joe's apartment"! In-Reply-To: <4882fd4d-b772-4ebb-8aaa-0c20be6051b6@googlegroups.com> References: <232acf45-096d-466a-aa75-06d8c378b128@googlegroups.com> <53cc376e$0$2898$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> <53926733-5e65-482f-96bc-0171c6a93d59@googlegroups.com> <4882fd4d-b772-4ebb-8aaa-0c20be6051b6@googlegroups.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.10; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - boston.accountservergroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - python.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - tim.thechases.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: boston.accountservergroup.com: authenticated_id: tim@thechases.com Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 49 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1405909882 news.xs4all.nl 2922 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:47051 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:74895 On 2014-07-20 19:06, Rick Johnson wrote: > ============================================================ > STEPS TO REPRODUCE BUG 1: "Attack of the clones!" > ============================================================ > > 1. Open the IDLE application > 2. Maximize the window that appears > 3. Go to the "File Menu" and choose the "Open" command > > Now repeat step 3 at least one more time, but feel free to > keep opening new dialogs until your fingers bleed and/or > eyes pop out. In the versions of IDLE that I have here (2.7.3 and 3.2.3), both prevent me from repeating step #3 multiple times. > ============================================================ > STEPS TO REPRODUCE BUG 2: "Hide and go seek!" > ============================================================ > > 1. Open the IDLE application > 2. Maximize the window that appears > 3. Go to the "File Menu" and choose the "Open" command > 4. Without disturbing the dialog, minimize the main window > 5. Using the taskbar icon, maximize the window > > Where is the dialog? Right where I left it? Are you running with a broken window manager that prevents you from seeing the dialog? Sure, because I activated the main IDLE window, it covers the dialog, but I can just select the Open dialog in my task-bar and it pops to the top (alternatively, I could have it display at a higher layer to prevent it from getting covered by the main IDLE window). This is the behavior I want and expect (I often want to refer to text in one window to inform my decisions in a modal window). I've got it running under Fluxbox on Debian Stable and it does exactly what I want/expect. -tkc