Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.002 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'url:sourceforge': 0.03; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.04; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'ide': 0.09; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'roger': 0.09; 'runs': 0.10; 'python': 0.11; 'language.': 0.14; 'idle,': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'reminded': 0.16; 'extensions': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'do.': 0.18; 'users.': 0.18; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; '(such': 0.24; 'phd': 0.24; '---': 0.24; 'academic': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints- To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'fixed': 0.29; 'programming.': 0.30; 'dated': 0.31; 'run': 0.32; 'subject: (': 0.35; 'tool': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'idle': 0.36; 'library.': 0.36; 'opposed': 0.36; 'useful': 0.36; "i'll": 0.36; 'being': 0.38; 'problems': 0.38; 'process,': 0.38; 'to:addr :python-list': 0.38; 'quote': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'free': 0.61; 'ago,': 0.61; 'viruses': 0.61; 'protection': 0.63; 'our': 0.64; 'provide': 0.64; 'more': 0.64; 'talking': 0.65; 'antivirus': 0.68; 'caused': 0.69; 'plugins': 0.84; 'processes,': 0.91; 'recover': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: Improving Idle (was Re: Python 3 ...) Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 02:54:29 +0100 References: <87zjga4j4v.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <53c57bae$0$9505$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <87iomy4ciy.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <53c5f6dc$0$9505$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <87egxl4zq8.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <53c73ff0$0$29897$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <9ef930a0-5a41-4a20-a13a-003c9e8246fe@googlegroups.com> <9b5557e3-45ea-4d3b-81cd-90d69322c556@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-92-24-212-209.ppp.as43234.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 140720-1, 20/07/2014), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 31 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1405907686 news.xs4all.nl 2902 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:58942 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:74892 On 19/07/2014 21:45, Terry Reedy wrote: > > If you are talking about user processes, and we are talking about > patching Idle, as opposed to Python or the OS (such as Windows), I > disagree. If you are talking about the Idle process, then yes, I would > prefer that once Idle starts, it run forever, and recover from any > problems caused by users. Roger Serwy fixed many Idle shutdowns before > being swallowed by a PhD program a year ago, but there is more to do. > Which has just reminded me of this http://idlex.sourceforge.net/ which is available from pypi, with the last update dated 2014-06-02. I'll quote from the sourceforge page "IdleX is a collection of over twenty extensions and plugins that provide additional functionality to IDLE, a Python IDE provided in the standard library. It transforms IDLE into a more useful tool for academic research and development as well as exploratory programming. IdleX runs with Python 2.6, 2.7, and 3.x." -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com