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Re: PyWart(2.7.8) IDLE is more buggy than "Joe's apartment"!

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On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 8:44 AM, Rick Johnson
<rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> wrote:
> Filedialogs should be "truly modal", and like any modal
> dialog, should present themselves to the user utilizing
> blocking -- that is the whole point of "modal dialogs", to
> *BLOCK* further execution of the application *UNTIL* the
> user provides (generally speaking) an "answer" to a
> "question".
>
> In order to facilitate *SMOOTH* interfacing between the user
> and the modal dialog, the "contract of modal dialogs" must
> be strictly obeyed:

File dialogs can be modal or modeless. That's been true since the very
first time I met them (which, admittedly, wasn't until the early 90s;
maybe someone remembers earlier and can tell me if they were
inherently modal 25+ years ago?), and there are good reasons for both
operation styles. Even if your dialog is modal, it's extremely common
to NOT block the application, but merely prevent interaction;
otherwise, your main window won't repaint, which is generally
considered to be a flaw. Rick, have you ever done any serious GUI
programming in anything other than Tkinter? Are you seriously unaware
of standard GUI widget functionality?

ChrisA

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PyWart(2.7.8) IDLE is more buggy than "Joe's apartment"! Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2014-07-20 14:14 -0700
  Re: PyWart(2.7.8) IDLE is more buggy than "Joe's apartment"! Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-07-20 22:36 +0100
  Re: PyWart(2.7.8) IDLE is more buggy than "Joe's apartment"! Irmen de Jong <irmen.NOSPAM@xs4all.nl> - 2014-07-20 23:40 +0200
    Re: PyWart(2.7.8) IDLE is more buggy than "Joe's apartment"! Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2014-07-20 15:44 -0700
      Re: PyWart(2.7.8) IDLE is more buggy than "Joe's apartment"! Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-21 11:02 +1000
        Re: PyWart(2.7.8) IDLE is more buggy than "Joe's apartment"! Rick Johnson <rantingrickjohnson@gmail.com> - 2014-07-20 19:06 -0700
          Re: PyWart(2.7.8) IDLE is more buggy than "Joe's apartment"! Tim Chase <python.list@tim.thechases.com> - 2014-07-20 21:30 -0500
          Re: PyWart(2.7.8) IDLE is more buggy than "Joe's apartment"! Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-21 12:38 +1000
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              Re: PyWart(2.7.8) IDLE is more buggy than "Joe's apartment"! Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-22 00:51 +1000
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              Re: PyWart(2.7.8) IDLE is more buggy than "Joe's apartment"! Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-07-22 02:05 +1000
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