Path: csiph.com!feeder.erje.net!1.us.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.fsmpi.rwth-aachen.de!newsfeed.straub-nv.de!news-1.dfn.de!news.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Random832 Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: I'm wrong or Will we fix the ducks limp? Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2016 14:36:54 -0400 Lines: 7 Message-ID: References: <5754f36b$0$1619$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <1465186088.3554819.628831041.19D0DC8D@webmail.messagingengine.com> <575599f4$0$1595$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <57569f6a$0$11124$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> <5756BED8.2000304@rece.vub.ac.be> <1465313620.1380508.630546953.7F7E755D@webmail.messagingengine.com> <5757CF15.4010002@rece.vub.ac.be> <5757dbaf$0$1615$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <5757E840.80805@rece.vub.ac.be> <5757FB1B.5000502@rece.vub.ac.be> <5758292E.2020600@rece.vub.ac.be> <871t474ox1.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <57591B21.7050509@rece.vub.ac.be> <1465497414.2026372.633057497.567E0A75@webmail.messagingengine.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de y66b0eRnwUSk7Zeh6IpbQAarPigDhcGmCD1HPeDLOw8Q== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.007 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'binary': 0.05; 'received:internal': 0.09; 'python': 0.10; 'skip:p 40': 0.15; 'thu,': 0.15; 'message-id:@webmail.messagingengine.com': 0.16; 'pointers,': 0.16; 'received:10.202': 0.16; 'received:10.202.2': 0.16; 'received:66.111': 0.16; 'received:66.111.4': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:messagingengine.com': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'memory': 0.17; 'referring': 0.22; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.36; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'received:10': 0.37; 'detail': 0.38; 'received:66': 0.38; 'subject:the': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'address': 0.61; 'header:Message- Id:1': 0.61; 'detail.': 0.66; 'nonsense.': 0.84; 'pardon': 0.84 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fastmail.com; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-sasl-enc :x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=TaaL4RuI12bxMvYDKbgNXZd8m+s=; b=hnfMDc SxtwTyD6PqtNQEHa8tzXO947Pu2aKfIUkqia/iLJypplXyS8E1r1ifz6jiFhYrKe bq+//qPj5N548gNcTEW8CSnU3HPHagvVs2PQgCcR5Jq2WaTx5ezXHOFZI1OFH5m+ nizqcShJNWVSXsG2Xt3pbwK8/WY4rY7E/NcA0= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=TaaL4RuI12bxMvY DKbgNXZd8m+s=; b=I8cPG/XBO/0ZLMFOlgn5bU6W9q0iQDOrKTAijEl94KFNjT8 alLs4ax6A+nOiIHC9WCASaSAh8/7aWpoz0hlvI6O4TdTTSIbOepsLN9caQoA0RGr 5Yn6dCoTGhZrgVe4dJQq+5/Yv1+ArE58Ccv4RuplwmFA6RaRmnixq2o4315Y= X-Sasl-Enc: 4snZLOhQAt9ZSQaXPaFp44ONQkzjAjKKF2M8q+bAL+Az 1465497414 X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-aff28cd1 In-Reply-To: <57591B21.7050509@rece.vub.ac.be> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: <1465497414.2026372.633057497.567E0A75@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Mailman-Original-References: <5754f36b$0$1619$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <1465186088.3554819.628831041.19D0DC8D@webmail.messagingengine.com> <575599f4$0$1595$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <57569f6a$0$11124$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> <5756BED8.2000304@rece.vub.ac.be> <1465313620.1380508.630546953.7F7E755D@webmail.messagingengine.com> <5757CF15.4010002@rece.vub.ac.be> <5757dbaf$0$1615$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <5757E840.80805@rece.vub.ac.be> <5757FB1B.5000502@rece.vub.ac.be> <5758292E.2020600@rece.vub.ac.be> <871t474ox1.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <57591B21.7050509@rece.vub.ac.be> Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:109759 On Thu, Jun 9, 2016, at 03:30, Antoon Pardon wrote: > Then you think wrong. Python has no pointers, that is an implementation > detail. Nonsense. A binary number referring to a memory address is an implementation detail. A pointer/reference/arrow-thingy-on-a-diagram is the thing it is an implementation detail *of*.