Path: csiph.com!news.mixmin.net!newsreader4.netcologne.de!news.netcologne.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Chris Angelico Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: def __init__(self): Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 03:30:02 +1000 Lines: 23 Message-ID: References: <34e51ef5-9679-40ec-bc8f-47981353e9d7@googlegroups.com> <571F1361.3010402@digipen.edu> <85eg9sn7qo.fsf@benfinney.id.au> <87lh40pyik.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <571f9362$0$1602$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <1461687967.2507874.590200129.102244C8@webmail.messagingengine.com> <571f9836$0$1619$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de Bm5zXex5oxROZVZH9GqhWgFYuyxNjZ5GHPc6gvNwBsjA== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.005 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'received:209.85.223': 0.03; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.09; 'obj': 0.09; 'python': 0.10; 'def': 0.13; 'wed,': 0.15; 'properly': 0.15; '(val,)': 0.16; '2016': 0.16; 'dummy': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'idx,': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'subject:def': 0.16; 'switch.': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'cc:2**0': 0.20; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.20; 'fix': 0.21; 'ctypes': 0.22; 'am,': 0.23; 'this:': 0.23; 'import': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'chris': 0.26; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'object,': 0.27; 'index,': 0.29; 'other,': 0.29; 'handled': 0.29; 'probably': 0.31; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'skip:c 30': 0.35; 'easiest': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'received:209.85': 0.36; 'possible': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'really': 0.37; 'wanted': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.38; 'back': 0.62; 'more': 0.63; 'spend': 0.67; 'actually,': 0.84; 'casting': 0.84; 'chrisa': 0.84; 'subject:self': 0.84; 'to:none': 0.91; 'difficult,': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc; bh=w0Z1MUrRcRhTIRomXPRrY3VBveZYiLNulbb6Sb4dEEA=; b=mfV8ZWXhg+r21KX72CTbRYGpbl1Onu420n1qetD3gMO9kMEdwOg8fUKt81p1Oev5zf 70HMWFfp4Eke/QZSPxWpwJP7ctg9nDIdhtI1knRHl584alWZ01jml48BztUkXwHUAKiR klSNZXmYpXexRonfdsgrS6xhhPdTLr+EQ2yXdHYQA7LVFQyY2YMLZSvZwQtHASz/CUpJ jE54pmlhBgBbQgnbR2z+Y+IkDH0BX+geWYs77D5bwPSlTXRJP2mQ2AOLYtA0/PmYe6+A 2OueodBerjM55NWEPFQjvnrfeZKICFBoOqBCDDVjZDBHLTnytlNSv0vBQsiA4pz+F76i PZWA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:cc; bh=w0Z1MUrRcRhTIRomXPRrY3VBveZYiLNulbb6Sb4dEEA=; b=FIOQWn9EFePyRKDpNKUmqxkVegWfBDCVKixqD6Cv89jMoQd0XxxU3ibD+zKe4FhdGu szI3fJWHVf12R1/N3Qd9nL+Tjd6JnALbfxpTGlV3nPkIMymLG89rvUguaTgdn8iJ5gQ2 NkVkd09WPFC4+UIX7NLwvDTKCWNQKauVZPuAVePdOx7mQfJnn5A+RgsoTcz6gwt8qTmt K8G3ntXuPhVqVMCXInWLOc1rMYiA5/aEtMl8yC35cocKerZ0GQcUi9o01XS0ieLGSjid 58Jh7mEUzSW27c2+HtsrzNe39xYfE8Uvnodr1UWlQoK43tntJ39oRuWQi/6HafKVkzkp d9bg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOPr4FXMFpVLRGui8kicCcGrZMHfU1q/VcI1sxqYRSuUWa7VuXCPBafhoXI2gFv9CrYPBaXMTeSigkms5Oh4Hg== X-Received: by 10.107.169.13 with SMTP id s13mr4658964ioe.19.1461691803050; Tue, 26 Apr 2016 10:30:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: X-Mailman-Original-References: <34e51ef5-9679-40ec-bc8f-47981353e9d7@googlegroups.com> <571F1361.3010402@digipen.edu> <85eg9sn7qo.fsf@benfinney.id.au> <87lh40pyik.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <571f9362$0$1602$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <1461687967.2507874.590200129.102244C8@webmail.messagingengine.com> <571f9836$0$1619$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:107679 On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 3:13 AM, Chris Kaynor wrote: > Yah, if you really wanted to make it work properly, you'd need to incref > the newValue, while decref the oldValue. The incref would not be that > difficult, but the decref would be more challenging, as you may have to > also destroy the old object, though that might be possible by casting it > back to a python object without the incref,. One way or the other, I did > not exactly spend a ton of time to make it work properly :) Exactly. :) Actually, the easiest fix is probably this: import ctypes def low_change_tuple(tuple, index, newValue): obj = ctypes.cast(id(tuple), ctypes.POINTER(ctypes.c_long)) obj[3+index] = id(newValue) def change_tuple(tup, idx, val): dummy = (val,) low_change_tuple(dummy, 0, tup[idx]) low_change_tuple(tup, idx, val) Refcounts are handled by the switch. ChrisA