Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.004 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.04; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'failing': 0.07; 'result,': 0.07; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'bug': 0.12; 'language.': 0.14; 'behaviour.': 0.16; 'duties,': 0.16; 'feeding': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'stats': 0.16; 'tracker,': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; '(the': 0.22; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.23; 'own.': 0.24; '---': 0.24; 'header:X-Complaints- To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; 'generally': 0.29; 'them?': 0.31; 'bugs': 0.33; 'subject: (': 0.35; 'johnson': 0.35; 'test': 0.35; 'crazy': 0.36; 'date.': 0.36; 'idle': 0.36; 'changing': 0.37; 'problems': 0.38; 'to:addr :python-list': 0.38; 'does': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'free': 0.61; 'viruses': 0.61; 'name': 0.63; 'protection': 0.63; 'our': 0.64; '20,': 0.68; 'antivirus': 0.68; 'jul': 0.74; 'click': 0.77; 'holidays': 0.84; 'lonely': 0.84; 'rick': 0.93 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: Improving Idle (was Re: Python 3 ...) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 12:40:09 +0100 References: <87iomy4ciy.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <53c5f6dc$0$9505$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <87egxl4zq8.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <53c73ff0$0$29897$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <9ef930a0-5a41-4a20-a13a-003c9e8246fe@googlegroups.com> <9b5557e3-45ea-4d3b-81cd-90d69322c556@googlegroups.com> <64e2ac85-5c95-4834-b140-2189b884fb02@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-78-147-31-181.as13285.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 140720-0, 20/07/2014), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 34 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1405856412 news.xs4all.nl 2880 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:55240 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:74877 On 20/07/2014 02:42, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Rick Johnson > wrote: >> Does the IDLE bug-tracker exist to *SOLVE* problems or to >> *PERPETUATE* them? > > Definitely the latter. If it weren't for that tracker, bugs would just > quietly die on their own. The PSU has a roster for feeding the bugs, > changing their litter, and all other bug-related duties, and when > someone goes on holidays and forgets to schedule a replacement, heaps > of bugs just inexplicably die. (The PSU generally conceals this faux > pas under the name of a "release".) > > ChrisA > An alternative is that the PSU wait until some raving lunatic, sado-masochistic nutter who actually likes triaging comes only and bumps some of the sillier, lonely bugs, e.g a three year old failing test case on a buildbot. Result, bug is closed as out of date. Click on the stats link at bugs.python.org and observe the result of this crazy type of behaviour. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com