Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.047 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.91; '*S*': 0.00; 'alias': 0.09; 'exit': 0.09; 'lines.': 0.09; 'restart': 0.09; 'subject:software': 0.09; 'weeks,': 0.09; 'worse': 0.09; 'wrong,': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python- list': 0.11; 'gui': 0.12; 'thread': 0.14; 'bit;': 0.16; 'cli': 0.16; 'crosses': 0.16; 'distinct': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'subject:reader': 0.16; 'threads,': 0.16; 'usenet': 0.16; 'followed': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'not,': 0.20; 'seems': 0.21; 'saying': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'certainly': 0.24; 'convenient': 0.24; 'question': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'equivalent': 0.26; 'post': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'said,': 0.30; 'then.': 0.30; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; '(which': 0.31; 'went': 0.31; 'boundary': 0.31; 'bunch': 0.31; 'there.': 0.32; 'probably': 0.32; 'regular': 0.32; 'open': 0.33; 'linux': 0.33; 'cases': 0.33; 'reader': 0.33; 'there,': 0.34; "i'd": 0.34; 'problem': 0.35; "can't": 0.35; 'etc': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'useful': 0.36; 'similar': 0.36; 'half': 0.37; 'two': 0.37; 'server': 0.38; 'gmail': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'sure': 0.39; 'either': 0.39; 'how': 0.40; 'even': 0.60; 'read': 0.60; 'is.': 0.60; 'new': 0.61; 'john': 0.61; "you're": 0.61; 'back': 0.62; 'spam.': 0.64; 'more': 0.64; 'different': 0.65; 'here': 0.66; '20,': 0.68; 'bothered': 0.68; 'useful.': 0.68; 'subject': 0.69; 'jul': 0.74; 'potentially': 0.81; '(better': 0.84; 'gabriel': 0.84; 'homework': 0.84; 'monte': 0.84; 'religion': 0.84; 'rubbish': 0.84; 'seriously,': 0.84; 'to:none': 0.92; 'remember,': 0.93; 'rick': 0.93 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=R49Trx6VAD9jnZQVgljBMZLCab7riO/YD2wXfVkVuak=; b=S+RDddK+mgZV3f3npikTbdbhx8D1L3EbZG1wJXNWg0RWxbCfnrXxBCTXvc4XzGSs0D gPmHPgPXFqWIlrpdzhFwkVrPnd0zdIfB5iPjvSTAwrA/SEImxXS6N3HJBsKoVSN5+7VY QJpK7/ktCSNEzc8VMS1iOrkXxZVeqfxd/PWyYLggOBUUvyEqZPz1Y14huhACwTSo3hxM yZfjUGAoqa2TK17WvqFlZxkvKkEbASAHwm9Vez+PUveTndxTj/lUh6SzasrpGqkNvqLM CdUZ/F+nQXMwHGpI8O7dbyeim+oiJ9oujQ1aPFHtw0kJr7EWkZtbnPHr281ImuLXZ7XD I6Rw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.137.163 with SMTP id qj3mr8594094vdb.26.1405830064601; Sat, 19 Jul 2014 21:21:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <878077080427409149.032995sturla.molden-gmail.com@news.gmane.org> <207103364427412353.673868sturla.molden-gmail.com@news.gmane.org> <093d2303-9e7d-497e-bb85-b9f16d5d61af@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 14:21:04 +1000 Subject: Re: OT: usenet reader software From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 39 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1405830066 news.xs4all.nl 2832 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:35309 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:74868 On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Monte Milanuk wrote: > That said, the irony that there seems to be a distinct *lack* of GUI > usenet reader programs for Linux just kills me. Seems like its either Pan, > or knode if you're into KDE. Otherwise... you get to go dredge up old > CLI programs like this one (slrn). Works pretty well (better than I > remember, actually) but still... having to exit the program and restart > it to open a different server is *very* old-school :/ When I wanted to post a question to sci.math, I ended up with Xpn, which seems decent. Got it from the Debian Wheezy repo, so it's convenient to grab. Out of curiosity I just now went back there, found the thread I'd started (no new posts), and skimmed everything that had come in since then. What I'm seeing is: 1) Heaps of threads by one John Gabriel, which have in several cases been followed up with public service announcements saying "CRANK ALERT". He seems to be the sci.math equivalent of either Ranting Rick or jmf... but worse than either by a significant margin. Seriously, he makes me happy about how well-off c.l.p is. 2) Other "crank" threads, boasting of how Newton is right and Einstein wrong, or something. I'm not sure if Archimedes Plutonium is an alias of John Gabriel or not, but I can't be bothered reading the threads to find out. 3) Straight-up spam about adwords, "Islam is not a Religion of Extremism" (which comes through to c.l.p too, and even crosses the boundary to python-list at times; I see some of that in my Gmail spam box), etc 4) A few homework problems, again similar to what we see here 5) About two threads, and this across roughly two and a half weeks, that are actually interesting and potentially useful. I might be overstating the problem a bit; a sci.math regular might read a bunch of them and find that a few more are useful than the ones that I picked out based on their subject lines. But certainly there is a LOT of spam there. Not as much as there is utter junk that isn't spam (ridiculous crank-posted rubbish outnumbers spam threads by probably 3:1 or more), but still a lot of spam. ChrisA