Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!news.mixmin.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.018 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.96; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'versions,': 0.07; 'bug.': 0.09; 'cursor': 0.09; 'feature,': 0.09; 'insertion': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'bug,': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'sat,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'code.': 0.18; 'seems': 0.21; 'command': 0.22; '>>>': 0.22; 'shell': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'equivalent': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'appear': 0.29; 'chris': 0.29; 'feature': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; 'statement': 0.30; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'disable': 0.31; 'there.': 0.32; 'beginning': 0.33; "i'd": 0.34; "can't": 0.35; 'case,': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'useful': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'being': 0.38; 'that,': 0.38; 'does': 0.39; 'moving': 0.39; 'even': 0.60; 'ian': 0.60; 'between': 0.67; '20,': 0.68; 'prompt': 0.68; 'home': 0.69; 'press': 0.70; 'therefore': 0.72; 'jul': 0.74; '4:00': 0.84; 'to:none': 0.92 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=RYn9ZFUykCC3GX8XsbupPrVp32VBSc2CLCur2EDSLWE=; b=Zj1CNKFj4OjGPjUFhN/7s09rv9aQwAicjXTwXybcUyTrgZapkS8FzQ6QtwyfIsHnyM j3QLqCNiNVJpnL4tN3LCZNWq2kDybypstAceqU/aOj0QEAtp40MdcyDay6z4MQ4qcrcc FilP60g1Gc3G8mkjjZSm+ZmyDzLAZHZzaHoTDwvVn1iz3B+gxGCxrK985bc6i+LWQ9Lj D6h+y1/eK0DlZCdmlhXS7y4zOF7Ess+Q3kLfe7q/slEYYqUHoJxsF0fU2a1NoS5hYXve hBphuyeT6AccEgu1N7O1QFdz1JRGvZgjGUQd9StGNF099YWpdfLxg/qAgXWweEFNF7wv lF2w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.172.5 with SMTP id ay5mr14756156vdc.38.1405811449643; Sat, 19 Jul 2014 16:10:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <87zjga4j4v.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <53c57bae$0$9505$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <87iomy4ciy.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <53c5f6dc$0$9505$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <87egxl4zq8.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <53c73ff0$0$29897$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <9ef930a0-5a41-4a20-a13a-003c9e8246fe@googlegroups.com> <9b5557e3-45ea-4d3b-81cd-90d69322c556@googlegroups.com> Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 09:10:49 +1000 Subject: Re: Python 3 is killing Python From: Chris Angelico Cc: Python Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 25 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1405811457 news.xs4all.nl 2876 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:48543 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:74842 On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 4:00 AM, Ian Kelly wrote: > On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 10:41 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: >>> However, a *bare* HOME_KEY press is placing the insertion >>> cursor *BEHIND* the prompt of the current line. In a shell >>> environment, you never want to be *BEHIND* the command >>> prompt. >> >> I don't know about the old versions, but in 3.4, it seems to be set so >> the Home key toggles between the beginning of the code and the >> beginning of the line. Seems a useful feature, although I can >> understand if you'd want to disable it and set the Home key to only >> ever go to the beginning of code. But that's a configuration question; >> this does not appear to be a bug. > > I'd say that moving the cursor to a position where you can't type is a > bug. In that case, "beginning of the line" should be understood to be > after the prompt. You can copy and paste from there. It's functionally equivalent to being able to press Up arrow and move above the currently-editable line. But even if it weren't for that, my statement would still be correct: It's not a bug, and therefore not embarrassment, because it's a feature that you may or may not like. ChrisA