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On 7/18/14 5:37 PM, Rick Johnson wrote:
> On Friday, July 18, 2014 1:20:10 PM UTC-5, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> PyDev, Eric, Komodo, PyCharm, WingIDE, SPE, Ninja-IDE,
>> Geany, IEP, Spyder, Boa Constructor, PyScripter, NetBeans,
>> Emacs, KDevelop, BlackAdder, ...
>
> And tell me Steven, how many of those "quality" IDEs that
> you listed actually *SHIP* with Python?
>
> The *WHOLE* reason for GvR *CREATING* and then *SHIPPING*
> IDLE, was to provide a simplistic native IDE for the noobs.
> That was his gift to the noobs, HOWEVER, this community has
> *SQUANDERED* that gift, and allowed it putrefy for over a
> decade and a half!
>
> A noob has not idea what an IDE *IS*, much less where to
> find a decent IDE, or what IDEs are even compatible with
> Python! IDLE was meant to provide a tool by which noobs can
> use to start writing Python code "out of the box".
>
> Do you remember the acronym of "CP4E"[1]? Sadly, most people
> in this community seem to forgotten, *MAYBE* even the
> dicktator himself!
>
> [1]: https://www.python.org/doc/essays/cp4e/
>

As a group, we have dealt with caustic respondents before.  The way to 
get them to stop dragging threads into pointless arguments is to ignore 
them.  I would advise doing the same in this case.  All I see here is 
disrespectful trolling.

-- 
Ned Batchelder, http://nedbatchelder.com