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From: Mark Lawrence <breamoreboy@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Python 3 is killing Python
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 16:49:17 +0100
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On 18/07/2014 04:37, Rick Johnson wrote:
> On Thursday, July 17, 2014 9:15:15 PM UTC-5, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> For myself, though, I completely do not use the editor half of [IDLE]; but
>> it's spectacularly useful (with limitations) as my primary interactive
>> interpreter.
>
> Yes Chris, i also think that the IDLE shell is "spectacular"
> when i'm using it, especially when i press
> "CONTROL+LEFT_ARROW" and the insertion cursor lands *BEHIND*
> the start of the interactive command marker " >>>", an
> area where key presses are not allowed, so *NOW* I must press
> "CONTROL+RIGHT_ARROW" three times to get to my destination!
>
> I'm also just "gushing with exuberance" when i open a new
> block and i get *EIGHT SPACE INDENTION*!
>
> And I get a raging semi each time IDLE hangs between run
> sessions when i'm editing Tkinter code, yes Chris,  I GET A
> BIG FAT ERECTION! Sometimes, when it does not go away
> after four hours, i have to visit the local emergency room
> and take some pills.
>
>   THAT'S HOW MUCH I JUST *LOVE* THIS CRAPPY SOFTWARE CHRIS!
>
>   I'M SO GLAD WE CAN SHARE THESE "WONDERFUL" EXPERIENCES TOGETHER!
>
>   MAYBE NEXT WE CAN RE-INACT THE LAST SCENE OF ROMEO AND JULIETTE?
>
>> [...] The only problem I have with it is that blatting
>> ridiculous amounts of text to the console can take a very
>> long time, esp on Windows. If I accidentally display a
>> large object when I thought I was displaying a small one,
>> it'll hang for quite a while, churning through something,
>> and it's not easy to see why or to halt it. But I suspect
>> that's more of a Windows and/or Tk issue than an Idle one.
>
> The *PROBLEM* is that user has no method of "undo-ing" an
> accidental display of huge amounts of data , forcing the
> user to close and then re-open the entire software -- can
> you understand now *WHY* i complain about this software?
>
> This is *EMBARRASSING*, and you should *ALL* be ashamed
> that, not only does Python include such an amateurish piece
> of crap software, but it has been there for years!
>
>      UNCHANGED FOR YEARS!!!
>

This is patently wrong, IDLE is constantly being improved.  I also don't 
recall ever seeing a bug report from yourself about IDLE.  Your gretest 
strength seems to be complaining, your biggest weakness doing anything 
about whatever it is that you're complaining about.

-- 
My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask 
what you can do for our language.

Mark Lawrence

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