Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Erik Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Exended ASCII and code pages [was Re: for / while else doesn't make sense] Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 21:29:41 +0100 Lines: 22 Message-ID: References: <5743a8d2$0$1587$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <7D6476C4-9969-4648-AB43-4CE0C7115B9C@icloud.com> <57457c4f$0$11122$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> <57461326.5040606@lucidity.plus.com> <5746AFA3.9020303@lucidity.plus.com> <8737p589bo.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <57475CB5.7010102@lucidity.plus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de paabWjV0ztDX6yK23tE6egmv8d561U1R4FWjJNFlJUAg== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.002 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'interpreted': 0.07; 'subject:code': 0.07; 'bytes,': 0.09; 'subject:while': 0.09; 'terms,': 0.09; 'encoding': 0.15; 'subject: \n ': 0.15; 'exactly?': 0.16; 'from:addr:python': 0.16; 'received:84.93': 0.16; 'received:84.93.230': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'subject:make': 0.16; 'too?': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'byte': 0.18; 'char': 0.18; 'refers': 0.18; 'saying': 0.22; 'ascii': 0.22; 'referring': 0.22; 'relaxed': 0.22; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'subject: [': 0.29; 'array': 0.29; 'character': 0.29; 'regardless': 0.31; 'received:84': 0.32; 'stands': 0.33; 'according': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'really': 0.37; 'say': 0.37; 'or,': 0.38; 'received:192': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'charset:windows-1252': 0.62; 'subject: / ': 0.63; 'to,': 0.63; 'subject:else': 0.84; 'subject:sense': 0.84 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=QqujpgGd c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=JBpuNAvKTJOW008ppJp5Sw==:117 a=JBpuNAvKTJOW008ppJp5Sw==:17 a=L9H7d07YOLsA:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=s5jvgZ67dGcA:10 a=N659UExz7-8A:10 a=crUiWxKS3RxO8Hm72ZkA:9 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.8.0 In-Reply-To: <8737p589bo.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: <57475CB5.7010102@lucidity.plus.com> X-Mailman-Original-References: <5743a8d2$0$1587$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <7D6476C4-9969-4648-AB43-4CE0C7115B9C@icloud.com> <57457c4f$0$11122$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> <57461326.5040606@lucidity.plus.com> <5746AFA3.9020303@lucidity.plus.com> <8737p589bo.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:109156 On 26/05/16 10:20, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > ASCII has taken new meanings. For most coders, in relaxed style, it > refers to any byte-oriented character encoding scheme. In C terms, > > ASCII == char * Is this really true? So by "taken new meanings" you are saying that it has actually lost all meaning. The 'S' stands for "Standard". It's an encoding (each byte value refers to a particular character value according to that standard). To say that any array of bytes, regardless of what each byte value should be interpreted as, is "ASCII" makes no sense. How "relaxed" are these 'coders' you're referring to, exactly? ;) Or, have I fallen for your trap, and you're joking with me too? E.