Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Ben Finney Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: for / while else doesn't make sense Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 14:13:45 +1000 Lines: 21 Message-ID: References: <573EC62F.4090401@lucidity.plus.com> <573f9322$0$1616$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <5741cde9$0$1587$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <57422e03$0$1596$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <85r3ct9zt2.fsf@benfinney.id.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de aC9LmE4Crqb1SdgQblqpMQn0Ths99no1jHSI5F/UiHiQ== Cancel-Lock: sha1:Q77G+ETq48URP/l3KFwbNTX5PH8= Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.105 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.80; '*S*': 0.01; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'subject:while': 0.09; 'denying': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'subject:make': 0.16; 'exists.': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.26; 'specify': 0.27; 'asked': 0.29; "i'm": 0.30; 'task': 0.30; 'steven': 0.33; 'instead': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'received:org': 0.37; 'beyond': 0.37; 'wrong': 0.38; 'someone': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'subject: / ': 0.63; 'more': 0.63; 'different': 0.63; 'world': 0.64; 'concerns': 0.66; 'physics': 0.66; '_o__)': 0.84; 'bored': 0.84; 'received:125': 0.84; 'subject:else': 0.84; 'subject:sense': 0.84; 'imagine': 0.96 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: jigong.madmonks.org X-Public-Key-ID: 0xAC128405 X-Public-Key-Fingerprint: 517C F14B B2F3 98B0 CB35 4855 B8B2 4C06 AC12 8405 X-Public-Key-URL: http://www.benfinney.id.au/contact/bfinney-pubkey.asc X-Post-From: Ben Finney User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: <85r3ct9zt2.fsf@benfinney.id.au> X-Mailman-Original-References: <573EC62F.4090401@lucidity.plus.com> <573f9322$0$1616$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <5741cde9$0$1587$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <57422e03$0$1596$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:108975 Jon Ribbens writes: > OK, I'm bored of you now. You clearly are not willing to imagine > a world beyond your own preconceptions. Steven has, in the message to which you responded, asked for you to *describe* this other world you assert exists. More concretely: Steven is not denying someone might have different expectations. On the contrary, you've said your expectations differ, and Steven is *explicitly asking* you to specify those expectations. And, instead of answering, you give this dismissal. Are your expectations so hard to describe? -- \ “It is wrong to think that the task of physics is to find out | `\ how nature *is*. Physics concerns what we can *say* about | _o__) nature…” —Niels Bohr | Ben Finney