Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!news.mixmin.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.031 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.94; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'deny': 0.07; 'comment,': 0.09; "(i'm": 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'naming': 0.16; 'python".': 0.16; 'roy': 0.16; 'sources.': 0.16; 'subject: \n ': 0.16; 'weapon': 0.16; 'thursday,': 0.16; ':-)': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'module': 0.19; 'thu,': 0.19; '>>>': 0.22; 'coding': 0.22; 'stick': 0.24; 'subject:community': 0.24; '(see': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; 'words': 0.29; 'especially': 0.30; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; '-0700,': 0.31; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; 'fri,': 0.33; 'maybe': 0.34; 'subject:the': 0.34; 'case,': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'list': 0.37; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'short': 0.38; 'sure': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'mailing': 0.39; 'guy': 0.60; 'group,': 0.63; 'different': 0.65; 'smith': 0.68; 'end.': 0.84; 'fish': 0.84; 'impressive,': 0.84; 'pike': 0.84; 'song': 0.84; 'british': 0.87; 'comedy': 0.93; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=fCZyg/dJkbHHUq90J12ezvD1lnn/WdJwCELB44rP1v0=; b=C3tr6GZgAtZCOnEx5BztoK3rSkr6ZLrH/pGA1n9N3FoXTDGB5EJdPrXOfw3w9ZrxsT BOY94EU0o/kp74ZE5EkgCN+eHaXIRo6/bPWtDyJyO7M5SUNW2UAO2x8CKX/3/VaHrVjP DNrFgdO7hX2ZVqYs92cnpaemhGZNLzBbxCBglt+koDYVp/4QjVsosr2Fj1Kx2hCA9Dqt NgKcZmTGjSPnQupFP9tX9cSHt3iBF/n3I90Ti7KEOAQ18RGGHbzONcyDU7CXNQ/YGXu4 HIE4Sbz0X3RAFNHLxxrMGKgZ1wOoY7JwZbEXL1JXdejLETKfogEIpYhjKwN8/IP4V6tJ TSUw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.247.36 with SMTP id yb4mr958642pbc.138.1382068997328; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 21:03:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5260a7a2$0$29981$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> References: <2013101623133337485-owenjacobson@grimoireca> <5260a7a2$0$29981$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 15:03:17 +1100 Subject: Re: Sexism in the Ruby community: how does the Python community manage it? From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 30 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1382069443 news.xs4all.nl 15932 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:49484 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:57028 On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Thu, 17 Oct 2013 10:16:24 -0700, Roy Smith wrote: > >> On Thursday, October 17, 2013 11:07:48 AM UTC-4, Chris Angelico wrote: >>> Module names should be descriptive, not fancy. >> >> Interesting comment, on a mailing list for a language named after a >> snake, especially by a guy who claims to prefer an language named after >> a fish :-) > > It's not named after a snake, but after a British comedy group, "Monty > Python". And I daresay that Pike is named after a long stick with a spike > and axe on the end. Just 'cos that would be cooler than naming it after > the fish. I don't know which it was named after (could also be a road, eg turnpike), but the language's logo is the fish. > (I'm not sure whether the fish was named after the weapon, or the weapon > after the fish. But I'm pretty sure one was named after the other.) Maybe. Or maybe they're just short words that came from completely different sources. In any case, I don't deny the coolness of singing "Gallant pikemen, valiant sworders" (see Yeomen of the Guard by Gilbert and Sullivan) while coding in Pike... or playing the Spam Song while coding in Python... hmm, maybe that's not so impressive, but it is funny. ChrisA