Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'python.': 0.02; 'subject:Python': 0.06; '(except': 0.07; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'gui': 0.12; 'jan': 0.12; 'file).': 0.16; 'idle.': 0.16; 'imo,': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'example': 0.22; 'programming': 0.22; 'issue.': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'issue,': 0.24; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'van': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply- To:1': 0.27; 'point': 0.28; 'fixing': 0.31; 'anyone': 0.31; 'file': 0.32; 'languages': 0.32; 'stuff': 0.32; 'problem': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'editor': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'doubt': 0.36; 'idle': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'issue': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'received:71': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'new': 0.61; 'more': 0.64; 'production': 0.68; 'received:fios.verizon.net': 0.84; 'imagine': 0.93 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Terry Reedy Subject: Re: Python 3 is killing Python Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2014 17:30:12 -0400 References: <5389cb53$0$29978$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <99b7b2a2-7521-42d7-a5a0-1a35d4d5b922@googlegroups.com> <53C4A454.9010600@gmail.com> <87zjga4j4v.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <53c57bae$0$9505$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <87iomy4ciy.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <53c5f6dc$0$9505$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <87egxl4zq8.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <53c73ff0$0$29897$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <9ef930a0-5a41-4a20-a13a-003c9e8246fe@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-71-175-90-87.phlapa.fios.verizon.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 19 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1405632692 news.xs4all.nl 2900 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:60618 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:74692 On 7/17/2014 3:22 PM, Emile van Sebille wrote: > I imagine those that would be in a position to improve idle don't see > the point of it. IMO, idle was never intended as a production > development editor but more as an extensive example of gui programming > with python. Yes, you _can_ use it to edit, and there are nice python > hooks, but I doubt that anyone with the skills to enhance idle actually > uses idle. That is something of a problem as people 'graduate' to multi-language environments. However, while I have programmed in about 20 languages during my lifetime, I have now 'contracted' to using only Python (except for the occasional .bat file). So I use Idle to work on both my own stuff and on fixing Idle. When I notice an issue while working on an issue, I file a new issue. -- Terry Jan Reedy