X-Received: by 10.180.187.212 with SMTP id fu20mr303783wic.6.1382067948159; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 20:45:48 -0700 (PDT) Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!dedibox.gegeweb.org!gegeweb.eu!nntpfeed.proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!209.85.212.216.MISMATCH!et7no18629567wib.1!news-out.google.com!ed8ni320215wic.0!nntp.google.com!feeder1.cambriumusenet.nl!feed.tweaknews.nl!194.109.133.87.MISMATCH!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.072 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.86; '*S*': 0.01; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'storage.': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; '"in': 0.16; 'aviation': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'preserve': 0.16; 'reasonable.': 0.16; 'roy': 0.16; 'subject: \n ': 0.16; 'term.': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'putting': 0.22; 'subject:community': 0.24; 'fine': 0.24; 'world,': 0.26; 'header :In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'minor': 0.31; 'pickle': 0.31; 'fri,': 0.33; 'subject:the': 0.34; 'point.': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'example,': 0.37; 'generic': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'little': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'even': 0.60; 'expression': 0.60; 'more': 0.64; 'smith': 0.68; 'food': 0.72; 'long-term': 0.74; 'article': 0.77; 'actually,': 0.84; 'captures': 0.84; 'essence': 0.91; 'notion': 0.91; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=pPAkLfOuF4qfxlY18Y6jiA/4KBsOKvUfQBrV5c/sHIs=; b=QmpEErWlO2IQPgSRERYOdtCe1atkH2GoaernwYrqk8rrrm2vwkR46skHvXgB0f3uD1 Wu9p++kk6/BVBaryGfxdsde6lI4p2YuckH7xrEujBK2gKewQTGmXb52PKQT+KrxSSXNt fsD28QUFPE6nYiUqFgG82EEc5cvj7Txbh7WPPgDy5wEipNgO6FNwpGybaq7ELxmvKbAZ f0POOe/6xXieuFCwMp2isCXAx1t7Vg6tcQP1JGA1r+XvyK6otTtjk1BNamkAWs+f+YDJ KQAUNQXXcv9W5d7b04kbALUw8l2mxHnjjSjC8jH4+QbirGHSJyii1N20eu5B6pOfmat5 FwOA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.58.137 with SMTP id r9mr888081pbq.148.1382067938279; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 20:45:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <2013101623133337485-owenjacobson@grimoireca> Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 14:45:38 +1100 Subject: Re: Sexism in the Ruby community: how does the Python community manage it? From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 20 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1382067947 news.xs4all.nl 15863 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:39867 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:57025 On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 11:10 AM, Roy Smith wrote: > In article , > Chris Angelico wrote: > >> 12.1. pickle =E2=80=B9 Python object serialization >> (flavorful, fine once you know it, but a little unintuitive) > > Actually, pickle is a very descriptive term. You might be thinking that > a pickle is just a cucumber that's been soaked in brine, but the more > generic meaning of pickle is to preserve something. In the aviation > world, for example, they talk of pickling an engine as a way to put it > in long-term storage. The analogy of putting data into long-term > storage is perfectly reasonable. Good point. I thought of pickle as the food and the expression "in a pickle", neither of which captures the essence as well as the notion of preservation. Withdrawing the criticism - though it was minor even to start with. ChrisA