Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.010 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'correct.': 0.07; 'override': 0.07; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.09; 'extension.': 0.09; 'subject:using': 0.09; 'python': 0.10; 'subject:not': 0.11; "skip:' 30": 0.15; '.dll': 0.16; 'bisect': 0.16; 'normal,': 0.16; 'received:192.168.11': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'thanks.': 0.18; 'language': 0.19; '>>>': 0.20; 'windows': 0.20; '2015': 0.20; 'developer': 0.20; 'cc:2**0': 0.20; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.20; 'aug': 0.20; 'extension': 0.20; '(on': 0.22; 'object.': 0.22; "skip:' 40": 0.22; 'sorry,': 0.22; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.22; 'am,': 0.23; 'this:': 0.23; 'import': 0.24; 'written': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'mon,': 0.24; 'module': 0.25; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; "doesn't": 0.26; 'skip:" 20': 0.26; 'not.': 0.27; 'subject: ?': 0.27; 'question': 0.27; 'module.': 0.27; 'correct': 0.28; 'function': 0.28; 'sentence': 0.29; 'objects': 0.29; 'asked': 0.29; 'url:mailman': 0.30; 'skip:_ 10': 0.32; 'url:python': 0.33; "d'aprano": 0.33; 'everyone.': 0.33; 'steven': 0.33; 'message-id:@gmail.com': 0.34; 'url:listinfo': 0.34; 'members.': 0.34; 'file': 0.34; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'world,': 0.35; 'question,': 0.35; 'asking': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'list,': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'email addr:python.org': 0.36; 'pm,': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'two': 0.37; 'times.': 0.38; 'mailing': 0.38; 'means': 0.39; 'goes': 0.39; 'does': 0.39; 'received:192': 0.39; 'url:mail': 0.40; 'where': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'determine': 0.61; 'above,': 0.63; 'different': 0.63; 'believe': 0.66; 'python-list': 0.66; 'email name:python-list': 0.67; 'results.': 0.67; 'day': 0.67; 'answer.': 0.72; '2.7.': 0.84; 'answer,': 0.84; 'working,': 0.84; 'to:none': 0.91; 'joel': 0.91; 'sorry.': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:cc:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=eDHWw3aKxKIhES51UKdwquDDVuONIM9rh/QOoGar9s4=; b=tokbL+pSKvh4yGbA95yboZlXrx4RKbH8LFmd2QSLSZ/S7+n3KivqdRe0uNPvRiU7Q3 V5XBQGKfaGcJWkJ6bYuBxgG9iUyvi5RZn9AnD6/ufLNB1kuqL6WhbNCY/lWLjVbdXM+6 ZScE5984VBFUeOW1QvGztoCFJhVQgSQaiX5ZScKX6L1IDREkIlXlGNqFbEXMpiphhxN6 ZUZWMwF2OWKBkMwo+5xQfKVjEkLm4TjkrM7mlwYnYX6NMjg5of0oQYqV7wCakniPdfOM 4Qg4RSv4kZUspWKh3q08ooFrCSU74IpAyoMBXXCG8SHvwSz2W7si4qC93CGEizBHNJv1 O+5Q== X-Received: by 10.70.94.98 with SMTP id db2mr37179707pdb.130.1438613847543; Mon, 03 Aug 2015 07:57:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2015 23:57:24 +0900 From: umedoblock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: how to determine for using c extension or not ? References: <55bf6e6f$0$1650$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <55BF7457.8030704@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 104 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1438613855 news.xs4all.nl 2930 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:56004 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.stben.net!border1.nntp.ams1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed8.news.xs4all.nl!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:94943 normal, no change >>> import bisect >>> bisect.bisect.__module__ '_bisect' I change from "from _bisect import *" to "pass" in bisect.py >>> import bisect >>> bisect.bisect.__module__ 'bisect' bisect.bisect.__module__ return different results. they are '_bisect' and 'bisect'. I know that c extension document recomended us to use _ for c extension name prefix. I use "bisect.bisect.__module__" sentence to determine for using c extension or not. thanks. On 2015年08月03日 23:11, Joel Goldstick wrote: > On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 10:01 AM, umedoblock wrote: >> sorry, Joel, Skip, Steven, and python-list members. >> >> I think that I don't sent my mail to python-list@python.org or I don't have >> correct mail setting. >> >> so I send many mails. >> >> sorry... I should wait a day to get answer, sorry. >> >> >> On 2015年08月03日 22:36, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, 3 Aug 2015 03:47 pm, umedoblock wrote: >>> >>>> Hello everyone. >>>> >>>> I use bisect module. >>> >>> >>> You asked the same question FOUR times. Have patience. Your question goes >>> all over the world, people may be asleep, or working, or just not know the >>> answer. If you ask a question, and get no answers, you should wait a full >>> day before asking again. >>> >>> >>>> bisect module developer give us c extension as _bisect. >>>> >>>> If Python3.3 use _bisect, _bisect override his functions in bisect.py. >>> >>> >>> So does Python 2.7. >>> >>> >>>> now, I use id() function to determine for using c extension or not. >>> >>> >>> The id() function doesn't tell you where objects come from or what >>> language >>> they are written in. But they will tell you if two objects are the same >>> object. >>> >>>>>>> import bisect >>>>>>> id(bisect.bisect) >>>> >>>> 139679893708880 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> import _bisect >>>>>>> id(_bisect.bisect) >>>> >>>> 139679893708880 >>>> >>>> they return 139679893708880 as id. >>>> so i believe that i use c extension. >>> >>> >>> Correct. >>> >>> Also, you can do this: >>> >>> >>> py> import bisect >>> py> bisect.__file__ >>> '/usr/local/lib/python2.7/bisect.pyc' >>> py> bisect.bisect.__module__ # Where does the bisect file come from? >>> '_bisect' >>> py> import _bisect >>> py> _bisect.__file__ >>> '/usr/local/lib/python2.7/lib-dynload/_bisect.so' >>> >>> So you can see that _bisect is a .so file (on Linux; on Windows it will be >>> a .dll file), which means written in C. >>> >>> >> >> -- >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > > Welcome to the mailing list, and as I see above, you got a good answer. >