Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!news.albasani.net!rt.uk.eu.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.002 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; '16,': 0.03; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.04; 'anyway.': 0.05; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'wednesday,': 0.07; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'logic': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; '2.7': 0.14; 'language.': 0.14; 'enough.': 0.16; 'fork': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'throw': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'wed,': 0.18; '>>>': 0.22; 'proposed': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; '---': 0.24; 'push': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.27; "i'm": 0.30; 'code': 0.31; '-0700,': 0.31; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; 'core': 0.34; 'created': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'johnson': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'version': 0.36; 'mass': 0.36; 'next': 0.36; 'behind': 0.37; 'problems': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'even': 0.60; 'solve': 0.60; 'free': 0.61; 'viruses': 0.61; 'protection': 0.63; 'july': 0.63; 'our': 0.64; 'situation': 0.65; 'world': 0.66; 'antivirus': 0.68; 'eight': 0.74; 'jul': 0.74; '2.8.': 0.84; 'received:89': 0.85; 'rick': 0.93 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: Python 3 is killing Python Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2014 08:17:06 +0100 References: <57ajo9poljjre4c4ig0n0ss8kph8k78lp0@4ax.com> <5389cb53$0$29978$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <99b7b2a2-7521-42d7-a5a0-1a35d4d5b922@googlegroups.com> <53C4A454.9010600@gmail.com> <87zjga4j4v.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <53c57bae$0$9505$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <87iomy4ciy.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <53c5f6dc$0$9505$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <87egxl4zq8.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <35c7f9e5-e4ab-4673-88f7-d41e5a4be26b@googlegroups.com> <53c73f90$0$29897$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-89-240-169-26.as13285.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 In-Reply-To: <53c73f90$0$29897$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 140716-1, 16/07/2014), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 36 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1405581446 news.xs4all.nl 2850 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:53743 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:74627 On 17/07/2014 04:14, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Wed, 16 Jul 2014 18:16:16 -0700, Rick Johnson wrote: > >> On Wednesday, July 16, 2014 6:00:16 PM UTC-5, Mark Lawrence wrote: >>> I'm not aware of any mass exodus from core Python 3 to the fork that >>> has consistently proposed to give the world Python 2.8. Do you know >>> something that I don't? >> >> Well, currently at least, we don't even *need* a Python 2.8, not for the >> next couple of years anyway. > > There will never be a Python 2.8. When push comes to shove, the people > bitching about Python 3 will not do the work necessary to fork Python 2.7 > and make a version 2.8. > Actually I like the logic behind 2.8. "We've only had eight years to port our code to Python 3. That's not been long enough. So to work around the situation we'll throw all of our miniscule resources into forking Python to solve all of the problems that Python has created for us". Where is Walter Mitty when you need him? -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com