Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.006 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; '16,': 0.03; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.04; 'yet.': 0.04; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'latter': 0.09; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'language.': 0.14; 'booted': 0.16; 'confuse': 0.16; 'expert.': 0.16; 'filters,': 0.16; 'happily': 0.16; 'lurking': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'wa,': 0.16; 'prevent': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'wed,': 0.18; 'all,': 0.19; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'please?': 0.24; 'unicode': 0.24; 'fairly': 0.24; 'non': 0.24; 'cheers,': 0.24; "haven't": 0.24; '(or': 0.24; '---': 0.24; "i've": 0.25; 'nearly': 0.26; 'posts': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply- To:1': 0.27; '[1]': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; "doesn't": 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; 'asked': 0.31; 'url:wiki': 0.31; 'once,': 0.31; 'piece': 0.31; 'url:wikipedia': 0.31; 'something': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'possible': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'two': 0.37; 'jason': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'anything': 0.39; 'does': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'skip:u 10': 0.60; 'improved': 0.60; 'most': 0.60; 'free': 0.61; 'ago.': 0.61; 'viruses': 0.61; "you've": 0.63; 'show': 0.63; 'protection': 0.63; 'our': 0.64; 'life': 0.66; 'between': 0.67; 'antivirus': 0.68; 'nobody': 0.68; 'usa': 0.69; 'jul': 0.74; 'subject:This': 0.74; 'touch': 0.74; 'protect': 0.79; 'dramatically': 0.84; 'oblige.': 0.84; 'url:]': 0.84; 'whereas': 0.91; 'wanting': 0.93 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: This Python 3 is killing Python thread is killing me. Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 21:27:04 +0100 References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-78-147-28-78.as13285.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 140716-0, 16/07/2014), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 51 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1405542410 news.xs4all.nl 2848 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:44261 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:74587 On 16/07/2014 20:24, Jason Swails wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Mark Lawrence > wrote: > > On 16/07/2014 18:32, Deb Wyatt wrote: > > Can you all stop already with the non python US bashing? Please? > > Deb in WA, USA > > > rr started it with a fairly impressive piece of trolling but as > you've asked so politely I will happily oblige. > > ​I honestly don't understand why you haven't kill-filed him yet. I can > understand people wanting to respond to jmf to prevent newbies and the > Unicode-ignorant from thinking the FSR is not a good thing (or > fundamentally wrong), although I've killfiled him as well. [1] But > nobody will confuse rr's posts with something of value (their only > possible use can be to populate > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_logical_fallacies and > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem). There's nobody to protect > from rr-induced misconceptions. [http://xkcd.com/386/] > > My life lurking and learning on Python-list has been dramatically > improved since I began to instantiate filters, I highly recommend it. > > Cheers, > Jason > > [1] Seen one and you've seen them all, and I'm no unicode expert. > The difference between our most illustrious resident unicode expert and rr is that the former has only said anything of use once, whereas the latter does know about tkinter/IDLE. rr doesn't show up that often, the MIRUC has been spewing his mistruths for nearly two years and IMHO should have been booted into touch a long time ago. -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com