Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!uio.no!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.018 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.97; '*S*': 0.00; 'python.': 0.02; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'from:addr:ethan': 0.09; 'from:addr:stoneleaf.us': 0.09; 'from:name:ethan furman': 0.09; 'message-id:@stoneleaf.us': 0.09; '~ethan~': 0.09; 'thread': 0.14; 'callable': 0.16; 'janssen': 0.16; 'real.': 0.16; 'really?': 0.16; 'rebound': 0.16; 'received:gateway13.websitewelcome.com': 0.16; 'remembers': 0.16; 'subject:Java': 0.16; 'typeerror:': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; '>>>': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'header :In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'originally': 0.30; 'see,': 0.30; 'subject: (': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'shows': 0.36; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.36; 'being': 0.38; 'thank': 0.38; 'skip:[ 10': 0.38; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'how': 0.40; 'read': 0.60; 'received:173': 0.61; 'interest': 0.64; 'received:69.56': 0.68; 'increase': 0.74; '01:57': 0.84; 'back?': 0.84; 'batchelder': 0.84; 'ethan': 0.84; 'furman': 0.84; 'received:69.56.148': 0.84; 'solace': 0.84; 'magical': 0.91 Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 15:10:55 -0700 From: Ethan Furman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Python was designed (was Re: Multi-threading in Python vs Java) References: <52604F51.5040001@nedbatchelder.com> In-Reply-To: <52604F51.5040001@nedbatchelder.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator3304.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - python.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - stoneleaf.us X-BWhitelist: no X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: ([173.12.184.233]) [173.12.184.233]:59933 X-Source-Auth: ethan+stoneleaf.us X-Email-Count: 1 X-Source-Cap: dG9idWs7dG9idWs7Z2F0b3IzMzA0Lmhvc3RnYXRvci5jb20= X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 32 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1382047860 news.xs4all.nl 15873 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:36965 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:56997 On 10/17/2013 01:57 PM, Ned Batchelder wrote: > > Read and listen more. Write and say less. Mark Janssen has no interest in learning. From a thread long-ago: Mark Janssen wrote: > Ethan Furman wrote: >> Mark Janssen wrote: >>> >>> Really? >>> >>> --> int="five" >>> --> [int(i) for i in ["1","2","3"]] >>> >>> TypeError: str is not callable >>> >>> Now how are you going to get the original int type back? >> >> Mark Janssen, you would increase your credibility if you actually *learned* >> Python. > > Thank you, I actually knew it and was feigning ignorance for a good > reason -- where is this magical "assignment stack" which remembers > what int was originally bound to after I rebound it myself? As you can see, if caught out he claims he was feigning ignorance, but then immediately shows the ignorance is real. I take some solace in him not being a profane troll, as some in the past have been. -- ~Ethan~