Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.albasani.net!newsfeed.freenet.ag!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; '21,': 0.07; 'tarek': 0.07; 'python': 0.09; 'friday,': 0.09; 'git': 0.09; 'laptops.': 0.09; "person's": 0.09; 'runtime': 0.09; 'sep': 0.09; 'subject:Does': 0.09; 'subject:command': 0.09; 'terry': 0.09; 'to:addr:comp.lang.python': 0.09; 'useless': 0.09; 'cc:addr :python-list': 0.10; 'template': 0.11; 'subject:python': 0.11; 'assume': 0.11; 'library': 0.15; '11:59': 0.16; 'add,': 0.16; 'also:': 0.16; 'batteries': 0.16; 'distinction': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'scratch': 0.16; 'should.': 0.16; 'ziad\xe9': 0.16; 'developers,': 0.16; 'users.': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; '"you': 0.17; 'resolved': 0.17; 'jan': 0.18; '>>>': 0.18; 'cc:2**0': 0.23; 'monday,': 0.23; 'long,': 0.24; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.24; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.25; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'header :User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'developers': 0.26; 'in.': 0.27; 'probably': 0.29; 'install': 0.29; 'waste': 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'point': 0.31; 'file': 0.32; 'could': 0.32; 'another': 0.33; 'received:google.com': 0.34; 'pm,': 0.35; 'subject:?': 0.35; 'received:209.85': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'add': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'resources': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'some': 0.38; 'called': 0.39; 'end': 0.40; 'think': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'phone,': 0.62; 'between': 0.63; 'more': 0.63; 'dont': 0.64; 'our': 0.65; 'us,': 0.74; 'subject:have': 0.79; 'perspective.': 0.84; 'received:209.85.213.184': 0.91; 'received:mail- yx0-f184.google.com': 0.91 Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 22:33:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=122.167.250.153; posting-account=uPFZNQoAAAAm9w7z13q1SjWNKNjztdcD References: <48ed7c38-966a-48d4-97aa-cf3b350ce39b@googlegroups.com> <832435ee-230c-49c2-916c-18e9f807a422@googlegroups.com> <26bebff3-c739-419a-86fb-a957f7a78701@t2g2000pbt.googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-Google-Web-Client: true X-Google-IP: 122.167.250.153 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Does python have built command for package skeleton creation? From: Ramchandra Apte To: comp.lang.python@googlegroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Message-ID: Lines: 73 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1348464796 news.xs4all.nl 6905 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:33434 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:29899 On Monday, 24 September 2012 09:59:12 UTC+5:30, Terry Reedy wrote: > On 9/23/2012 11:59 PM, alex23 wrote: >=20 > > On Sep 21, 10:14 pm, xliiv wrote: >=20 > >> On Friday, September 21, 2012 1:08:23 PM UTC+2, Tarek Ziad=E9 wrote: >=20 > >>> Python Paste is probably what you are looking for - see >=20 > > >=20 > >> It's a nice beast but: >=20 > >> - it's not built in. Should it be? I think it should. >=20 > > >=20 > > There needs to be a distinction at some point between Python as >=20 > > runtime and development environments. If you assume that there are >=20 > > more users of Python code than developers, then cluttering it with >=20 > > more developer-only tools is a waste of resources for those end users. >=20 > > >=20 > > Also: developers are fussy about their environments. One person's vi >=20 > > is another person's emacs. We keep various package skeletons in our >=20 > > git repository, and that works well for us, so adding Paste to Python >=20 > > is just more useless kruft from our perspective. >=20 > > >=20 > > And: easy_install/pip install paste isn't exactly crippling to type. >=20 > > >=20 > >> - about readme and manifest.in: >=20 > >> "You could add to your template a file called readme.rst" >=20 > >> i dont want to add, i want it already added :) >=20 > > >=20 > > If you'd just did as they asked, you'd already have this issue >=20 > > resolved by now. >=20 > > >=20 > > If you're waiting for the standard library to scratch your itch for >=20 > > you, you're going to be waiting for a long, _long_ time. >=20 >=20 >=20 > Batteries are batteries, not flashlights, phone, radios, toys, clickers,= =20 >=20 > etc. >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 >=20 > Terry Jan Reedy Do remember to include laptops.