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Sender: Ned Batchelder <nedbat@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 16:57:53 -0400
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On 10/17/13 3:49 PM, Mark Janssen wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 10:32 AM, rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Wednesday, October 16, 2013 1:56:27 AM UTC+5:30, zipher wrote:
>>> Yes, well clearly we are not "having the same thoughts", yet the
>>> purpose of the academic establishment is to pin down such terminology
>>> and not have these sloppy understandings everywhere.  You dig?
>> Heh Mark I am really sorry.  I think this is the third or fourth time that I say something to which you reply with such egregious rubbish -- parsing has something to do with card-punches?!?! Yeah like python has something to do with the purple shirt I am wearing -- that a dozen others jump at you with a resounding 'Cut the crap!'
> You feedback is respected.  However, you haven't included in your
> analysis that you have a closed group here of Python aficionados.  I
> invite you to take a look at
> http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?TypeSystemCategoriesInImperativeLanguagesTwo
> before you continue to issue insults.

I'm interested to learn more about your ideas, but that wiki page is not 
going to help much.  It's a chaotic back-and-forth, with no attribution, 
so it's impossible to know who is saying what.  Except that it devolves 
into the same frustrated confusion, and then insults that this thread 
has, so I can tell: those trying to understand are frustrated, and Mark 
starts insulting people. "Hitler!": what does that mean??

Mark, if you want people to understand you, you have to get your facts 
straight, you have to explain yourself clearly, and when people don't 
understand, you have to not resort to insults.  Perhaps you are a 
misunderstood genius, I can't tell for sure.  So far it just looks like 
you are making sweeping over-generalizations based on insufficient 
understanding of the current and past complexities of the field.

Read and listen more.  Write and say less.

--Ned.
>> Likewise here. I certainly 'dig' your passion to clean up the 'sloppy understandings everywhere' and would only wish for you the sanity of more knowledge of the subject before you begin to hold forth.
> Talk to me after you've finished your assignment.