Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.116 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.79; '*S*': 0.02; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'intellect': 0.16; 'subject: \n ': 0.16; 'sender:addr:gmail.com': 0.17; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'meant': 0.20; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'subject:community': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'point': 0.28; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'concern.': 0.31; 'community': 0.33; 'subject:the': 0.34; "can't": 0.35; 'common': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'tech': 0.36; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'list': 0.37; 'refer': 0.63; 'our': 0.64; 'more': 0.64; 'levels': 0.65; 'anything.': 0.68; 'social': 0.69; 'have.': 0.93; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=vNvdksw65fvKHlazTBd07HFyGev//zBp/s/BcL+oTP0=; b=x4T8Ar7FjX2zb6eyGxIUY+7BXaSsVKkgDaLFWQiMMgBmaBFIZW2jl22e2/kosOsBG5 0FC02QwFtBOIfJvtghaGjyMNLgiq05kBPqZEJ9/GwlCrGPcbL2WgxP4bio8LaG/a3ugZ stJeEbPI0kz4Dwa2PAM24cX+yqln+WTAB3ZZTyZvmwAuzeCn4WVfWc+F6oFLeRO8psFn yEagbshNJAqyFSiHqjFE5nyj0JzIZpELUPRHM4ckt9cus2xLs0LInrRcsSROYD26dVil BWX3Va9va5AW+b1Vo4/smBzguyu5ZvEu7v4YebKn378jfgaw+RWcTwYYGuVoXDvoS7RP reBQ== X-Received: by 10.112.159.166 with SMTP id xd6mr43529lbb.22.1382044695872; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 14:18:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: joshua.landau.ws@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <2013101623133337485-owenjacobson@grimoireca> From: Joshua Landau Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 22:17:35 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: XRGFa2MNN_O8NWhAOCsdKxhIs_A Subject: Re: Sexism in the Ruby community: how does the Python community manage it? To: Owen Jacobson Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: python-list X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 9 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1382044698 news.xs4all.nl 15950 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:43829 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:56993 On 17 October 2013 22:14, Joshua Landau wrote: > It's not our job to do anything. We can't "clean" the internet, so > there's no point trying. Personally I think the common digressions > into attacks on intellect and professionalism are much more socially > regressed than the minute levels of sexism we have. This, by the way, was meant to refer to this list (being the social group of relevance) and not the tech community at large where sexism definitely is a large concern.