Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!goblin1!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.036 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.93; '*S*': 0.00; 'python,': 0.02; 'anders': 0.09; 'from:addr:ethan': 0.09; 'from:addr:stoneleaf.us': 0.09; 'from:name:ethan furman': 0.09; 'message-id:@stoneleaf.us': 0.09; 'whichever': 0.09; 'yeah,': 0.09; '~ethan~': 0.09; 'nan': 0.16; 'numpy': 0.16; 'received:69.93': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'bit': 0.19; 'examples': 0.20; 'seems': 0.21; '(in': 0.22; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.23; "haven't": 0.24; "i've": 0.25; 'asking': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'point': 0.28; 'along': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; 'lists': 0.32; 'everyone': 0.33; 'could': 0.34; 'point.': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'are,': 0.36; 'interact': 0.36; 'much.': 0.36; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.36; 'too': 0.37; 'easily': 0.37; 'being': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'help,': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'how': 0.40; 'received:173': 0.61; 'back': 0.62; 'making': 0.63; 'information': 0.63; 'our': 0.64; 'specialized': 0.65; 'worth': 0.66; 'here': 0.66; 'answer.': 0.68; 'subject:For': 0.78; 'improvement': 0.84; 'nuclear': 0.84; 'pain': 0.84; 'shield': 0.84; 'joel': 0.91; 'hand,': 0.93 Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2014 16:17:03 -0700 From: Ethan Furman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: NaN comparisons - Call For Anecdotes References: <53BC05FB.4050707@jmunch.dk> <53BD70F4.4000504@stoneleaf.us> <53BDAF90.8010709@jmunch.dk> <53BDCA33.3020100@jmunch.dk> In-Reply-To: <53BDCA33.3020100@jmunch.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator3304.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - python.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - stoneleaf.us X-BWhitelist: no X-Source-IP: 173.12.184.233 X-Exim-ID: 1X516l-0000DL-0l X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: ([173.12.184.233]) [173.12.184.233]:33690 X-Source-Auth: ethan+stoneleaf.us X-Email-Count: 1 X-Source-Cap: dG9idWs7dG9idWs7Z2F0b3IzMzA0Lmhvc3RnYXRvci5jb20= X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 22 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1404949930 news.xs4all.nl 2915 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:59932 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:74287 On 07/09/2014 04:03 PM, Anders J. Munch wrote: > Joel Goldstick wrote: >> >> I've been following along here, and it seems you haven't received the answer you want or need. > > So far I received exactly the answer I was expecting. 0 examples of NaN!=NaN being beneficial. python-list (in whichever from you interact with it) is in no way specialized, yet you are asking for a highly specialized bit of information. > I wasn't asking for help, I was making a point. Whether that will lead to improvement of Python, well, I'm not too > optimistic, but I feel the point was worth making regardless. The only point you have made is that no-one here uses them much. You could just as easily ask how many of us use lead-alloy to shield our in-home nuclear reactors to get the same answer. On the other hand, if you go and ask on the numpy and simpy and whatever-math-or-science-py lists there are, and get affirmative answers from them that yeah, NaN != NaN is just a huge pain and everyone is working around it, then brought that information back here -- well, then you will have made the point that you want to make. -- ~Ethan~