Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.035 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.93; '*S*': 0.00; '64-bit': 0.07; 'float': 0.07; '32-bit': 0.09; 'def': 0.12; 'losing': 0.16; 'math,': 0.16; 'nan1': 0.16; 'nans,': 0.16; 'wed,': 0.18; '>>>': 0.22; 'import': 0.22; 'mind.': 0.24; 'compare': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'idea': 0.28; 'am,': 0.29; "doesn't": 0.30; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'equality': 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; 'struct': 0.31; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'false': 0.36; 'doing': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'rather': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'skip:u 10': 0.60; "you're": 0.61; 'back': 0.62; 'jul': 0.74; 'subject:For': 0.78; 'double,': 0.84; 'cast': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=l8tUpwwvYSF4Hi/Kqldspr5WOpq1jYA7o+JRAFnRzXM=; b=TIwkcX4eX8YkXlfUrEeBBfGaNyXXvCfYDzcpAvSAT6uhiYOS80yOoTiINnECyC2L4W bdGu8I+gh6oNjx0DbL4KDWrXl/CkgKM2JQ8uOqkz+D5aKSrcIo/8/h+R0vOcNDqw2kTC AKiYvykQyT8VL2u8bGFCVUJX9TFyHLDa/X9TtAPiv5MpbpxU83STsVfpDYcWVN4Rix8n d8VFChfg/W9x1MLKRd5nZp+kVST/nAiHWEKM8Og3ucyo05/PaH99uHPtZHekiEYXWolU d/w+pJChSLYhlqzK8QgjCLzPwUIi1YNf7ASYZ+cUriWPFtDV5lhLUuUOqNZOiVK0sf8g ae7A== X-Received: by 10.70.33.228 with SMTP id u4mr12304992pdi.6.1404926826873; Wed, 09 Jul 2014 10:27:06 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <53bd739b$0$29995$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> References: <53bc26ca$0$29995$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <53bc8861$0$29995$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <53bd739b$0$29995$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> From: Ian Kelly Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2014 11:26:26 -0600 Subject: Re: NaN comparisons - Call For Anecdotes To: Python Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 30 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1404926836 news.xs4all.nl 2877 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:35328 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:74266 On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Steven D'Aprano > Cast your 64-bit float into a 64-bit int. Or, if it's a C single rather > than a double, cast the 32-bit float into a 32-bit int. Now you can > compare them for equality without carrying about NANs, and without losing > data. Later, when you're ready to start doing some numeric work on them, > you cast back to floats. That's the idea I had in mind. Perhaps it > doesn't match your use-case. Unfortunately, it's not that simple: >>> import math, struct >>> def float_to_int(x): ... return struct.unpack('L', struct.pack('d', x))[0] ... >>> 0.0 == -0.0 True >>> float_to_int(0.0) == float_to_int(-0.0) False >>> nan1 = struct.unpack('d', b'\x00'*6+b'\xf1\x7f')[0] >>> math.isnan(nan1) True >>> nan2 = struct.unpack('d', b'\x00'*6+b'\xf2\x7f')[0] >>> math.isnan(nan2) True >>> float_to_int(nan1) == float_to_int(nan1) True >>> float_to_int(nan2) == float_to_int(nan2) True >>> float_to_int(nan1) == float_to_int(nan2) False