Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: boB Stepp Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: value of pi and 22/7 Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 10:22:19 -0500 Lines: 20 Message-ID: References: <91940d31-1ff4-4267-9b07-445eca35d234@googlegroups.com> <5764a19c$0$1603$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de YFJyjAiPFtnO9cEQHlOWTAnLx/9eMsrzgAZ+2PmdZmJA== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.014 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.97; '*S*': 0.00; 'received:209.85.223': 0.03; 'units.': 0.09; 'properly': 0.15; '2016': 0.16; 'distinction': 0.16; 'from:addr:robertvstepp': 0.16; 'from:name:bob stepp': 0.16; 'inaccurate': 0.16; 'measurement': 0.16; 'measuring': 0.16; 'precision,': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'figures': 0.18; 'result,': 0.18; 'made.': 0.22; 'am,': 0.23; 'accuracy': 0.23; 'sat,': 0.23; 'tim': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'discussion': 0.24; 'scale': 0.27; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'decimal': 0.29; 'measure': 0.29; 'subject:/': 0.30; 'probably': 0.31; 'especially': 0.32; 'reported': 0.32; 'problem': 0.33; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'level': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'received:209.85': 0.36; 'possible': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'agree': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.38; 'system.': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'high': 0.60; 'close': 0.61; 'more': 0.63; 'between': 0.65; 'fact,': 0.67; 'therefore': 0.67; 'subject:value': 0.84; 'careful': 0.91; 'instrument': 0.95 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=fwIBaeZVI5KO0qPhxZ2sbFseEY/3cmaF0X6uFpE1L24=; b=M5WUi1dJnYDYygylU46Y5pRiU1E5F0IkADaAMQso0NVIWi9Zu7lq2Q7bg30aNxbrlh Mml7evV5YJw++gE1ztDTB9l0xZ2rHIoBktrS/i9JoO0g17aTji+GHhR4zVBwE1jgTYNG TcoHRHjvnsQTKDl0CZc5qrfeA1CjYKFPvd182g17AHvsizLA8hJAPJEL6fbQZ64Sp/tZ 1tFK5AKDuqO/jxOKmfS1h7PW04A9c9ladKJcMq4HhyQndvoAToTV93UObGElbYLnMTv2 hIZlVZEB4fDOOHLLY8r+j4+sv1rlqp3AHCk4n94En8APnc3sdVIrDj5+Am4pUoSLObP6 Vk4Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=fwIBaeZVI5KO0qPhxZ2sbFseEY/3cmaF0X6uFpE1L24=; b=mC9XZnq1cLYMNljGfct+WYprzxqcNqb8Qfbk+0Tot/PFbRW+40mm1eDFnK6++E+FuA sCAazCfkFn4pTLSSP4Q33/Vsm1YR9rFmsyOhLJYWLc2dbJ9lVx3BA0beemNgYVO57kNe gkVTjzfvc9T7OVOjP3T5OsoJLIYeszZvCmEKEFSBqI2RRfLFRqq1N3iiGWT2Jm+KNMQj 9V/43FLkYtoCYVDl2ucU2W//Q6tsSbzNgE09XUI8cAiviTWxnfkk5kqXL6nre1OL7MuO zdACCFwQFOvSosuBIxNfKNNUQko5N7A7cl97jDckYA5wx0vNquO/BmOBhMRdixQwK/Ox oQJw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tKnVymjNfLa/WR8AXlilVZMYfiejh/Tbeh2HrGl1lv6nCzuqH/6ZJppoHIfrgvZTkNbyFW4hY7RWFtIdQ== X-Received: by 10.107.135.90 with SMTP id j87mr10501490iod.158.1466263339950; Sat, 18 Jun 2016 08:22:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: X-Mailman-Original-References: <91940d31-1ff4-4267-9b07-445eca35d234@googlegroups.com> <5764a19c$0$1603$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:110102 On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 12:47 AM, Tim Harig wrote: > > The main problem I have with significant figures is that measurement > accuracy is often not constrained to a decimal system. A scale that can > measure in 1/5 units is more accurate than a scale that can measure only > in whole units but it is not as accurate as a scale that can measure > all 1/10 units. Therefore it effectively has a fractional number of > significant figures. Probably in this type of discussion a more careful distinction between "precision" and "accuracy" should be made. A measuring instrument may allow for many significant digits in its reported result, giving it a high level of precision, but could, in fact, be giving an inaccurate measurement (How close it is to the "true" value.), especially if it is an instrument that has not been properly calibrated (Made to agree as well as possible with known standards.). boB