Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=python.org; s=200901; t=1301715121; bh=httCOcuwiC9JTC29FQAFo4x6Nezlqza/n75BRWL5u6A=; h=To:From:Subject:Date:Message-ID:References:Mime-Version: Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=kG7CT37M6N8jLL1R+O0T2GqLdiBFx79AhQYo3MqTKdpMI0f+WUHAXemf5ASDAY9WU fFAxzLmy5VDtyoo2tZY9h0UGQo9rYq9MYtL/N5dNGOFuu9GQUT8Q8mDQRZnmcTvQ+k TC6tIY+hfj/UFMPMLVW8CnbV3DZTr5z80E44Efi0= X-Spam-Status: OK 0.004 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'python': 0.07; 'frankly': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229.12': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'received:lo.gmane.org': 0.09; 'subject:method': 0.09; 'better?': 0.16; 'decisions.': 0.16; 'message-id:@post.gmane.org': 0.16; 'pypy': 0.16; 'subject:sort': 0.16; 'writes:': 0.20; 'language': 0.20; 'from:addr:python.org': 0.20; "didn't": 0.25; 'preferred': 0.26; 'instead': 0.26; 'improvements': 0.31; 'paul': 0.32; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.32; 'reference': 0.34; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.34; 'actually': 0.34; 'change': 0.34; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.35; 'fixing': 0.35; 'allow': 0.36; 'think': 0.36; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.36; 'enough': 0.37; "we're": 0.37; 'decisions': 0.38; 'received:org': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'could': 0.39; 'header:Mime- Version:1': 0.39; 'would': 0.40; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'design': 0.61; 'give': 0.61; 'delaying': 0.84; 'subject:removal': 0.84 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Benjamin Peterson Subject: Re: Guido rethinking removal of cmp from sort method Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 03:31:48 +0000 (UTC) References: <4d7cbfcb$0$29971$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <4d94326c$0$30003$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <7x8vvue7or.fsf@ruckus.brouhaha.com> <7x39m1slf3.fsf@ruckus.brouhaha.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 64.131.13.109 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:2.0) Gecko/20110321 Firefox/4.0) X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 15 NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.94.164.166 X-Trace: 1301715122 news.xs4all.nl 81474 [::ffff:82.94.164.166]:56064 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.stben.net!border3.nntp.ams.giganews.com!border1.nntp.ams.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:2430 Paul Rubin nospam.invalid> writes: > > I actually think Python3 actually didn't go far enough in fixing > Python2. I'd have frankly preferred delaying it by a few years, to > allow PyPy to come to maturity and serve as the new main Python > implementation, and have that drive the language change decisions. > Instead we're going to have to give up a lot of possible improvements we > could have gotten from the new implementation. Why would having PyPy as the reference implementation have made this design decisions turn out better?