Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.011 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'bits': 0.07; 'pypi': 0.07; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.09; 'python': 0.10; '2.7': 0.13; '2.7?': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'hacks': 0.16; 'subject:Europython': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; "wouldn't": 0.16; '>>>': 0.20; '2015': 0.20; 'cc:2**0': 0.20; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.20; 'aug': 0.20; '(the': 0.22; 'do.': 0.22; '3.x': 0.22; 'lawrence': 0.22; 'trying': 0.22; 'am,': 0.23; 'slightly': 0.23; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'mon,': 0.24; 'mostly': 0.27; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; '2.6': 0.27; 'pieces': 0.27; 'too.': 0.30; 'guess': 0.31; 'probably': 0.31; "d'aprano": 0.33; 'steven': 0.33; 'list': 0.34; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'could': 0.35; 'there': 0.36; 'pm,': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'being': 0.37; 'johnson': 0.37; 'enough': 0.39; 'mark': 0.40; 'still': 0.40; 'some': 0.40; 'bring': 0.62; 'course': 0.62; 'different': 0.63; "they're": 0.66; '2.7.': 0.84; 'chrisa': 0.84; 'definitive': 0.84; 'to:none': 0.91; 'rick': 0.93 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=nOhQH78r9r4sLBZXLbPquSNH3HwQZZlDiAkgw4M+0l8=; b=SNm6Pe+MWM0c/SVpu8f/CWteABHFnD0JFOa/TG6z+9onqmF2yJ+ejjFj7MSH7ZA0pC 2f5c03UPvrAN99C5IoSwqyFWKzo1DgUO6CrCoxVQ79Yx34KEAAs8udzIjBgX7GcPJady zKyv70NU+Dt/sQtMSgVqjlYAAwDgYGIu7u/LH0xWBROvIcRlhuPWqZjBDjXG0TBt+nlr VsWKh15xGq06a8TuMTwk1bwP6NXicjzWk8vy4/2cfMGdgn2R16Bkd88vDOHegaocp9Bw 0+wJIwzC3Skmr8EWjbVGBhG80HDO/BXnenbDxlx3JjJzQTTf4kzFaIkqDAtad6yGuDcG kTcw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.12.141 with SMTP id 13mr17016362iom.157.1438575303041; Sun, 02 Aug 2015 21:15:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <87r3noltu3.fsf@jester.gateway.sonic.net> <106305a9-3ccd-4de4-a918-c27cec2d0b8c@googlegroups.com> <55bc5cfb$0$1643$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <55bdcf25$0$1653$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <917477df-5cda-4fab-bbb3-eb464bfa452e@googlegroups.com> <55bec37f$0$1646$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2015 14:15:02 +1000 Subject: Re: GvR Europython keynote described on lwn.net From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 26 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1438575305 news.xs4all.nl 2912 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:46874 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.stben.net!border1.nntp.ams1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed7.news.xs4all.nl!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:94917 On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 1:10 PM, Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 03/08/2015 02:27, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >> >> On Mon, 3 Aug 2015 08:34 am, Rick Johnson wrote: >> >>> So what? If i had to guess, i would guess that the hacks are >>> mostly to bring py3000 features to 2.7 >> >> >> These would be the features of Python 3 that nobody needs and nobody wants >> because Python 2 is good enough for everyone? >> >> I wouldn't want to guess what the customizations do. >> > > Is there actually a definitive list of goodies that were backported from 3.x > to 2.6 or 2.7? Of course some bits and pieces are still being backported to > 2.7. You could probably find a definitive list of *language* features that got backported. Trying to find a full list of the *modules* that got backported will be harder, as they're not a part of Python 2.7 as such (the backports are on PyPI instead) - and some of them have slightly different names, too. ChrisA