Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!rt.uk.eu.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.006 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'great.': 0.07; 'we,': 0.07; 'conventions.': 0.09; 'excluding': 0.09; 'themselves,': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'thread': 0.14; '"hey': 0.16; 'from:addr:mrabarnett.plus.com': 0.16; 'from:addr:python': 0.16; 'from:name:mrab': 0.16; 'message-id:@mrabarnett.plus.com': 0.16; 'naming': 0.16; 'ought': 0.16; 'scare': 0.16; 'subject: \n ': 0.16; 'thread,': 0.16; 'wherein': 0.16; 'do,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'all,': 0.19; 'basically': 0.19; 'programming': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'days,': 0.24; 'subject:community': 0.24; 'guys': 0.24; 'paul': 0.24; 'people,': 0.24; "i've": 0.25; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'field,': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; 'included': 0.31; 'subject:the': 0.34; 'agree': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; 'curious': 0.36; 'doing': 0.36; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'detail': 0.37; 'wrong': 0.37; 'list': 0.37; 'sometimes': 0.38; 'to:addr :python-list': 0.38; 'that,': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'mailing': 0.39; 'called': 0.40; 'how': 0.40; 'is.': 0.60; 'our': 0.64; 'great': 0.65; 'teach': 0.65; 'header:Reply-To:1': 0.67; 'superior': 0.69; 'reply-to:no real name:2**0': 0.71; 'glad': 0.83; 'clerical': 0.84; 'judgment,': 0.84; 'male': 0.84; 'reply- to:addr:python.org': 0.84; 'woman': 0.96 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=bKAvfpOZ c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=0nF1XD0wxitMEM03M9B4ZQ==:117 a=0nF1XD0wxitMEM03M9B4ZQ==:17 a=0Bzu9jTXAAAA:8 a=05MOGALpfCEA:10 a=9NrrvanjTjYA:10 a=ihvODaAuJD4A:10 a=OUOv7kDek9cA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=8AHkEIZyAAAA:8 a=rL1uwEAm_3AA:10 a=DEH-ZuhahvPObKruK4IA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 X-AUTH: mrabarnett:2500 Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 18:37:23 +0100 From: MRAB User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Sexism in the Ruby community: how does the Python community manage it? References: <2013101623133337485-owenjacobson@grimoireca> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: python-list@python.org List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 23 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1382031441 news.xs4all.nl 15933 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:38577 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:56974 On 17/10/2013 17:43, Paul Pittlerson wrote: > What we need to do is A) Prove that we are not sexist and racist by > excluding and intolerating people who do not agree with. B) Head on > over to the Ruby mailing list and make a thread called "Hey guys we > are the python people, and can you learn to behave, ok plz?" wherein > we detail to them what we think they are doing wrong and how we, in > our superior moral judgment, think they ought to improve themselves, > that'll teach them not to be sexist and racist alright. > > I think that is what OP is suggesting we do, if it's not then I > really don't know what it is. > > I've sometimes been curious why programming in general, and python > included is a male dominated field, well I'm glad that OP has figured > out it's just because we scare all the women away with our overt > sexism and racism naming conventions. > It's interesting to note that, in the early days, programming was thought to be a suitable job for a woman because, after all, it involved typing, so basically it was just clerical activity! > Great thread, just great. >